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    So what would be the top ten topics that when mentioned will derail the thread.
    Somewhere in the top there should be the more-than-humble base class MONK , also alignment discussions. Hmm maybe also Wizard - spawning an endless thread of argument _ " My wizard can beat up everything ever concieved and also the DM and its father and WIN the game", and " No my Wizard (or fighter or MONK) can beat up your wizard".
    So how would you populate the list.
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    I'm sorry, citizen, this list is above your security clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpreem View Post
    So what would be the top ten topics that when mentioned will derail the thread.
    Somewhere in the top there should be the more-than-humble base class MONK , also alignment discussions. Hmm maybe also Wizard - spawning an endless thread of argument _ " My wizard can beat up everything ever concieved and also the DM and its father and WIN the game", and " No my Wizard (or fighter or MONK) can beat up your wizard".
    So how would you populate the list.
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    Within alignment discussions, mentioning what BoED says will almost inevitably lead to a derailment along the lines of "What BoED says about ravages, afflictions, and poisons, as well as its Sanctify the Wicked spell, automatically make it a bad source for alignment, therefore invalid for any discussion"
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    Optimizing and Role-Playing are mutually exclusive. This should be at least in the top 3. If not number 1.
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    Mentions of how a different edition handles an issue under discussion may have a good chance of leading to edition wars.
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    Any thread that starts by discussing elements of both role playing and char op, regardless of whether or not they are presented as competing goals and even if presented merely as a matter of taste, will result in a derailment to discuss the finer points of the Stormwind fallacy.
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    I'd mention Pun-Pun, but it is usually mentioned at the start of the thread and then discarded really quickly by getting back to the point. I haven't seen many threads derailed completely on their first page.
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    Physics discussions sometimes derail threads about how magic works.
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    mmmmm...physics...
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    "so, why don't people like TOB?"
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    "But kicking the baby saved a bazilion lives so i dont think i should have become evil!"
    Aside from "have fun", i think the key to GMing is putting your players into situations where they need to make a choice that has no perfect outcome available. They will hate you for it, but they will be back at the table session after session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaun View Post
    "But kicking the baby saved a bazilion lives so i dont think i should have become evil!"
    And when DMs favour slow alignment change, but strictly enforce falling for evil acts, it's:

    "But kicking the baby saved a bazilion lives so I don't think it should have counted as an evil act!"

    But that's "alignment discussions in general".
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    Oh right, also don't forget:

    "Should this Paladin fall?"

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    "Was XXXX morally justified?"
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    "Hilarious! Someone should stat that!"

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    "Hilarious! Someone should stat that!"
    Oooh...good one.

    Alternatively: "Someone should stat that so we can kill it."
    Or: "Not everything needs stats." (This is also my personal opinion.)
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    You know, I honestly wonder how this thread will be derailed, if ever.
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    By not posting specific ways to derail threads, but talking about something else.
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    By not posting specific ways to derail threads, but talking about something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    By not posting specific ways to derail threads, but talking about something else.
    Won't that effectively be talking about thread derailment though, considering you're talking about a topic that derailed the thread?
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    Can my monk take a level in warblade without losing his lawful alignment or will that stop me from roleplaying? How about in 4e?
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    Bears.

    Bears will derail everything. Especially when you start trying to stack them.

    For example, how many bears can you fit into a Multiclassed Paladin/Monk thread?

    Can a bear be pun-pun?

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    "so, why don't people like TOB?"
    Or asking for build advice for a fighter/monk/paladin and saying TOB isn't allowed

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    Bears.

    Bears will derail everything. Especially when you start trying to stack them.
    I really can't bear it when that happens. my puns are so bear
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    I'd use my clairsentience powers to divine the answer, but everyone knows that psionics are overpowered.

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    I'd use my clairsentience powers to divine the answer, but everyone knows that psionics are overpowered.
    Psionics is not overpowered!

    How about mentioning the tier system, that could potentially be a dangerous topic.
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    'Should players be allowed to refluff'?

    Or, the rules of stacking bonuses. After all, everyone knows you can't stack a Paladin and a Monk, because they'll fall.

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    The weather.
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    Can a bear be pun-pun?
    Well, obviously, pun-pun can be a bear. And why wouldn't he want to be a bear?

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    Well, obviously, pun-pun can be a bear. And why wouldn't he want to be a bear?
    He could even be a bear-bear! With bears on top!
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    Love the things so far. I was considering a bear in my first post but i couldnt .... you know ....
    Also lots of stuff falling in alignment thread.
    Furmonger - I Really love this - "So what makes peaople dislike TOB"
    Seeing the thread in the forum gave me the main push for this thread here.
    Also hmm might I add or complement - a generic XXXXX is underpovered/overpovered!
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    Bears.

    Bears will derail everything. Especially when you start trying to stack them.

    For example, how many bears can you fit into a Multiclassed Paladin/Monk thread?

    Can a bear be pun-pun?
    I was going to mention this, because it usualy bears mentioning, but after thinking about it... it's bearly worth mentioning.

    Seriously, though, any mention of a flask rogue will cause the thread to degenerate quickly enough.

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