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    Question [3.P] Letting Everyone Bull Rush, Trip, Disarm, Etc. - How does balance change?

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    Bull Rush. Trip. Disarm. Overrun. Grapple. Sunder.

    These combat maneuvers are notoroius for being neglected, save for the super specialists. Newbies often don't realize they can do such things. Veterans are often apathetic toward these complex, "suboptimal" options.

    I believe one major reason is that warriors are expected to hit things, not use these 'advanced' maneuvers. I disagree with this notion, and believe more people should benefit from using these maneuvers.

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    -In 3.5, adopt Pathfinder's CMB and CMD system.

    -Nix the AoO. Why spend an action to try to trip someone 'untrained' when I can just do more damage by hitting him normally and with no AoO?

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    As DM, I may have more enemies using bull rush, disarm, and so on. Players may adopt these options, too.

    Balance-wise, I'm unsure how the game will change. What are your experiences and thoughts?
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    Default Re: [3.P] Letting Everyone Bull Rush, Trip, Disarm, Etc. - How does balance change?

    Trip and bull rush aren't really underused.

    Getting rid of attacks of opportunity for these attempts doesn't really affect balance all that much. Fighters will still full attack a lot of the time; they'll just use trips, disarms, and such along with ordinary attacks. Maybe.
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    Default Re: [3.P] Letting Everyone Bull Rush, Trip, Disarm, Etc. - How does balance change?

    Grapple sees a little use too

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    Default Re: [3.P] Letting Everyone Bull Rush, Trip, Disarm, Etc. - How does balance change?

    I personally wouldn't mind this at all. I've always hated how D'n'D punishes melee for using actions other than "I hit it". I would love to see players attempting manouvres like tripping and disarming more often.

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    Default Re: [3.P] Letting Everyone Bull Rush, Trip, Disarm, Etc. - How does balance change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Latronis View Post
    Grapple sees a little use too
    That's true, though I often avoid it just because it's far too much work.
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