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2010-08-29, 09:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Glassteel
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In AD&D 1st edition, there was a spell called Glassteel. I don't remember if it made steel transparent, or if it made glass as strong as steel, but I always liked the concept. As I remember, it was an 8th level spell. Why it was that high, I don't know.
What level do you think either version should be in 3.5? And, if it was available, would you take it, and what would you do with it?
Edit: Oh yes, and I think the spell is permanent.Last edited by thompur; 2010-08-29 at 09:49 PM.
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2010-08-29, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
Well, I think the first option can be done with Deceptive Facade (Bard 2, Sor/Wiz 3). *Cue discussion on whether a glamer can make something transparent*
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2010-08-29, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
There's a material in 'The sunless citadel' which can alloyed with your typical steel weapon to change it's color. The right variety of the material can also make your weapon transparent like glass.
It's pretty cheap too, but it's out of a 3.0 adventure, so your DM might not allow it
edit: Nephelium. Has all the properties of iron, but it is transparent. Impurities give it color, only costs an extra 100 gp more than a regular item. Odd, talks a lot about being scarce, but it's not near as expensive as ANY other special material (inferior materials like bone and bronze don't count)Last edited by herrhauptmann; 2010-08-29 at 10:00 PM.
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2010-08-29, 10:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
I'll see if I can find my 1st ed PHB. I've got the DMG handy, but not sure if I know where the PHB is.
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2010-08-29, 10:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
TROBRIAND’S GLASSEE
Transmutation
Level: Sorcerer/wizard 6
Permanently gives a metal or stone object the transparanecy of glass.
(CoS:Waterdeep pg 157)Last edited by Andion Isurand; 2010-08-29 at 10:23 PM.
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2010-08-29, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-30, 05:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
3rd edition D&D has 2 versions of glassteel. The 3.0 version is in Races of Faerűn on page 158. For some reason they nerfed it for 3.5 in Champions of Ruin on page 65. The newer version has nearly identical properties to mithral (matching exactly in weight, ASF, MDB, and ACP), so there's hardly any reason for its existence. The older, more expensive version combines the qualities of adamantine and mithral for a unique effect, which is especially useful if you'll be working without magic (in an Antimagic Field, say).
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2010-08-30, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
For those looking for the original:
"Glassteel(Alteration)
Level: 8
Range: Touch
Duration: Permanent
Area of Effect: Object touched
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 8 segments
Saving Throw: None
Explanation/Description: The glassteel spell turns crystal or glass into a transparent substance which has the tensile strength and unbreakabilityof actual steel. Only a relatively small volume of material can be affected, a maximum weight of 10 pounds per level of experience of the spell caster, and it must form one whole object. The material components of this spell are a small piece of glass and a small piece of steel."
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2010-08-30, 07:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
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2010-08-30, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-08-30, 09:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
Cheaper is awesome. Plus, you've got those wierd nature types who can't use metal armor and such. Non-metal is pretty big.
Clear armor? The obvious thing to do is make the fighters armor and weapons transparent. Sell him on the idea by telling him how much easier it will be to always have his equipment with him. As part of the deal, ask him to carry your spare spellbook, since he's so much stronger than you. Make sure it's visible.
You, on the other hand, should find a quite visible way to carry weapons and armor. Illusionary, if you must, but so long as it's visible.
End result: Any intelligent combatants meeting you for the first time are likely to use rather poor tactics.
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2010-08-31, 03:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
Transparent does not equal invisible. It's still going to be fairly obvious that the fighter is wearing armor. It's just now that much more important that he wear something under it.
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2010-08-31, 04:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
EVERYONE wears clothes and underarmor under their armor! Especially various kinds of 'big plates of solid material' armors (ie, the ones you would generally make out of weird materials like this) that in D&D are represented by Breastplate, Banded Mail, Half Plate, and Full Plate.
Last edited by Gavinfoxx; 2010-08-31 at 04:16 AM.
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2010-08-31, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
Not if you want to be invisible!
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2010-09-01, 01:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-09-01, 03:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Glassteel
Pictured: Glassteel equipment?
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