Rate my characters! (I'm allowed to post this right?)

[Silverking]

I'm a newish player, and I see so many blanks in my sheet that I feel must have some point! So, If you see anything missing, or that can be made better, tell me. Opinions are fine, and I don't need background. My characters are in my sig.

Please don't hurt me.

[onthetown]

Your bard needs his save DCs for spells, if you like having them written down. It's 10 + spell level + prime casting ability modifier (Charisma mod, in his case).

Edit: Spells per day and bonus spells, as well. PHB or SRD should have all of that in it for you.

[Marnath]

I'm a newish player, and I see so many blanks in my sheet that I feel must have some point! So, If you see anything missing, or that can be made better, tell me. Opinions are fine, and I don't need background. My characters are in my sig.

Please don't hurt me.

We don't bite.
Well, Roland does but only if you deserve it.

[The Glyphstone]

I don't bite. I swallow whole. Yum yum!

[zimmerwald1915]

I don't bite. I swallow whole. Yum yum!

Do you then cleave afterwords, grab, and swallow whole a second time?

[Ilmryn]

Writing down your speed might be useful. Also, your rogue should probably have a bow, or take weapon finesse.

[Silverking]

I was planning on finesse once I leveled and got a BAB. I'm not sure about a bow though.

Also, what is his speed?

[Dusk Eclipse]

I was planning on finesse once I leveled and got a BAB. I'm not sure about a bow though.

Also, what is his speed?

Normally 30 ft per round but some races can have more or less speed

Edit: Both of them should have 20 speed.

[Greyfell]

as a halfling? unless you've got something crazy going on with feats, 20 ft a round (4 squares)

edit: NINJA'd!.

[Dusk Eclipse]

as a halfling? unless you've got something crazy going on with feats, 20 ft a round (4 squares)

edit: NINJA'd!.

Swordsage'd actually

[Leon]

Every PC should have a ranged weapon and a back up weapon of a different damage type.

So a Light mace and a Light Crossbow.

[Silverking]

Every PC should have a ranged weapon and a back up weapon of a different damage type.

So a Light mace and a Light Crossbow.

wait, a mace?

[Ajadea]

For the bard. Your dagger is piercing or slashing, but if you come up against a skeleton, for example, let alone something like a lich, you may have problems. You should always be able to do bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage.

[grarrrg]

wait, a mace?

Yes, MACE!

[Leon]

wait, a mace?

I'd normally suggest a Morning Star but he's planning on taking Finesse at a later stage and a light mace is a finessable weapon

[Haarkla]

I'm a newish player, and I see so many blanks in my sheet that I feel must have some point! So, If you see anything missing, or that can be made better, tell me. Opinions are fine, and I don't need background. My characters are in my sig.

Please don't hurt me.

Your rogue seems pretty good.

Your bard needs a better melee weapon, you haven't specified which perform skill you have ranks in, and while your spell selection is pretty good, I always like to take detect magic.

[kaptainkrutch]

Rogue:
You forgot to put in your attack bonuses, it looks like. Also, I wouldn't put two different entries for your two short swords. I would just make one that says "2 Short Swords" with "-1/-1 or +1" in the total attack bonus (TAB) box. Short swords for small sized characters deal 1d4 damage, not 1d6. A sap does not do 1d6 cubed damage, the hypertext 3 was to indicate that it deals nonlethal damage. It is also 1d4 for small guys. It's TAB would be +1. Also, Tumble is really useful for rogues.

Bard:
Light crossbow should have +3 TAB, dagger is +2.

EDIT: That rogue is LOADED for a level 1 character.

[Ormagoden]

I don't bite. I swallow whole. Yum yum!

Thank god I have claws! Take that AC 10 BELLY FLESH!

[Keld Denar]

I don't bite. I swallow whole. Yum yum!

Lil Cthulu eats his followers first. Their souls make his tummy happy!

[Meschaelene]

I notice that the bard does not have diplomacy, bluff or sense motive. Every bard I have ever played has all three at maximum, as bards are commonly the party's faceman. I don't know what you are planning with this character, so it's hard to say what you might drop, but this is how I would typically designate skills for a bard: Step 1, max out perform. Step 2, max out diplomacy, bluff, sense motive and concentration. Step 3, spend other skills as desired.

The rogue has diplomacy at max. On rogues, if I am going for a faceman rogue, I max out bluff and sense motive, too. If I am spending most of my skills on trap disarming and lockpicking and sneaking around and such, I might only only hit one of those "people" skills, but I think that bluff is then the most appropriate.

[Silverking]

Rogue:
You forgot to put in your attack bonuses, it looks like. Also, I wouldn't put two different entries for your two short swords. I would just make one that says "2 Short Swords" with "-1/-1 or +1" in the total attack bonus (TAB) box. Short swords for small sized characters deal 1d4 damage, not 1d6. A sap does not do 1d6 cubed damage, the hypertext 3 was to indicate that it deals nonlethal damage. It is also 1d4 for small guys. It's TAB would be +1. Also, Tumble is really useful for rogues.

Bard:
Light crossbow should have +3 TAB, dagger is +2.

EDIT: That rogue is LOADED for a level 1 character.

Thank you for the complements, but your words made me dizzy, make them english. Or perhaps french, I need the practice.

And the reason I'm loaded is because I just got paid for killing a giant spider. What my DM didn't take into the cost was that we had to burn a poor tailor's shop down to kill it.

Your bard needs a better melee weapon, you haven't specified which perform skill you have ranks in, and while your spell selection is pretty good, I always like to take detect magic.

What weapon should I get? And my preform skill, you mean instrument? I was thinking whistling, since it doesn't need a heavy instrument, or an extra spell.

[Greenish]

Thank you for the complements, but your words made me dizzy, make them english. Or perhaps french, I need the practice.

loaded |ˈlōdid|
adjective
• informal having a lot of money; wealthy : she doesn't really have to work—they're loaded.

[kaptainkrutch]

Thank you for the complements, but your words made me dizzy, make them english. Or perhaps french, I need the practice.

Clarify, please.

[Silverking]

Clarify, please.

Thats what I was asking. As I said, I'm kinda inexperienced with this, and have trouble taking what you said, and turning it into something I can put on my sheet.

[Swooper]

The bard is missing Armour Check Penalty (ACP) in the skill list. The studded leather armour gives you a -1 penalty on all skills where ACP applies, double for Swim. Apparently Mythweavers doesn't mark the ACP skills, but you can look it up on a standard D&D charactersheet (there should be one in the back of your PHB) or just the skill list in the book/SRD.

[Silverking]

And where do I put check pen?

[Dusk Eclipse]

And where do I put check pen?

I usually put the misc penalties and bonus on the misc column of the skill part

[Gavinfoxx]

I'm assuming "DMG / Monster Manual / Player's Handbook / SRD" are your available books?

Small short swords are 1d4 damage. Make sure to double check the small damage for EVERYTHING!

Good weapons for level 1 rogues, that can be finesseable later:

Light Mace (for bludgeoning)
Handaxe I mean Sickle (for slashing)
Dagger or Gauntlet (for grappling)
Shortbow (for ranged)

A good level 1 feat for a core bard isn't something that improves a skill that is already good for you... Bards in Core can't do things that well, but a self-buffing bard can make a decent melee character, or a decent archer.

Consider using a SHORTBOW rather than a light crossbow. Faster reload. Also consider point blank shot and precise shot. Also consider being a human.

Remember, Core, or at least the SRD, has more feats than are just in the Player's Handbook.

Here are some lists...

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicFeats.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsterFeats.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm

In Core+SRD, consider a Strength based bard, with a spiked chain, and Stand Still and Power Attack. Act like a fighter, but be able to do other things too, like cast useful buffing spells. Maybe take a level or two of fighter after your first level, and then go back to bard. You will probably want to consider being a Human...

Also look at other races:
http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/variantRaces.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicRaces.htm

Also look at the Paragon classes in the SRD.

[Greenish]

Good weapons for level 1 rogues, that can be finesseable later:

Light Mace (for bludgeoning)
Handaxe (for slashing)
Dagger or Gauntlet (for grappling)
Shortbow (for ranged)

I don't think using handaxe over dagger is worth it. The -4 to hit is a bit rough for a first level character.

[Silverking]

First, I have already started the games with both characters. Just so everyone knows that. Also, I have trouble understanding everything. I am stupid.