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    Default Re: GitP PrC Contest Chat Thread III

    They lock em up at 50 or thereabouts, so being preemptive here and starting a new one.

    Current contest ends tomorrow at Midnight (Central Time). Finish up and let's get ready for the voting!

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    I am unable to post the revised text of my class anywhere. I also cannot edit the class in the official thread. At this point, I figure I'll just leave the unrevised class up in the thread.

    This is the strangest bug I have ever encountered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glimbur View Post
    I am unable to post the revised text of my class anywhere. I also cannot edit the class in the official thread. At this point, I figure I'll just leave the unrevised class up in the thread.

    This is the strangest bug I have ever encountered.
    Have you posted in the Board Site/Issues forum about this?
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    If you want, I could edit in the revised class for you. Just send me a PM with the class included.

    Edit: Have you considered deleting the post and simply posting the revised one? Never mind you said you couldn't edit, duh. Maybe just post the new one and ask to have the first ignored?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErrantX View Post
    Current contest ends tomorrow at Midnight (Central Time). Finish up and let's get ready for the voting!

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    Already ? Wow i was sure that i still got a few day. Well i will peach immediatly the two last class then:
    I appologized if it's a little short.

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    The fluff is short but interesting.

    Race: this seem like a very original idea at the first glance but i would have just include those bonus and penality as a first level ability in the Prc seem easier to me. Any specific reason for why you've gone this route ?

    Prereq: A little weird ability score are rarely used for prc and more for feat. Perhaps too easy too but you also need to find the way to become an evolved warg so it add a roleplaying requirement.

    Skill, Bab, saves: Why not fort save ? Seem to make more sense to me.

    Feral Charge: Original ability. The per day limit is a little harsh per encounter would make more sense.

    Weapons of the wolf: Weird mechanic of growing the weapon during the attack but seem fine otherwise.

    Nimble Charge: okay, interesting.

    Rend and Tear: So it's a pseudo pounce if you succed on a bull-rush. It's an original idea.

    Furious Charge: But he get pounce the next level only on feral charge. Not terrible.

    Bestial Heart: This one is good.

    Agile charge: Much better. Can it be used even without obstacle ?

    Rebounding Charge: Very cool idea.

    Soul of the Predator: underwhelming capstone but logical.

    Fluff: you need to finish it otherwose the class is disqualified.

    Conclusions: I'm not very impressed, but for a first try it's not bad just need more polishing.


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    Very nice image even if it strech the screen a little.
    i really like the fluff too.
    Having two version of the class for both male and female is original.

    Prereq: Seem fine

    Skills Nice but perhaps lot of skill point for a spellcasting/manifesting class.

    Bab, saves: just a niptick, you forget to put + before the number in the saves column.

    No line for weapon and armor prof ? None gain I assume but it's traditional.

    Spell/Power: Standard.

    Ecstatic Surge: Nice but seem better for wilder than sorcerer despite the surpassing max aspect.

    Fey Bond: Why calling it fey bond when it's just nymph kiss as a bonus feat ?
    The bonus to fey heritage feat is nice.

    Fey Knowledge: nice that.

    Heritage feat: that's good too. It allow you to gain all 5 feat.

    Greater Heritage: All bonus seem very good and would probably be a hard choice.

    Fey Ascension: Gaining the fey type and further bonus from a feat, Hard choice again.

    Fluff: Very good too, and well detailled.

    Spell:
    Call Nature's Defenders: Whoa, one spell that replace the whole summone monster line. Less versatility but for sorcerer it's awesome.
    excellent idea.

    Call of the Wild: Okay, perhaps a bit strong but with this casting time and the requirement of the four feat it should be alright. Good idea.

    Fairy Wings: Good one too.

    Fairy Wings: Luck reroll again ? Good spell even with the requirement 3rd level sound better to me. But I might overly cautious.

    Hands of the Forest: arcane healing cool.

    Natural Bond: Cool but I'm sure it would see use often.

    One with the World: Nice.

    Unearthly Grace: No problem either.

    Wild Transformation: Interesting too and not overpowered like some other polymorph spell.

    Only complaint about this spell is that they should also be on the bard spell list.

    Power:
    Equilavent of the spell so no particular comment but the augmentation for some of look nice.

    Conclusions: Very good work expanding on those underused fey heritage feat. And the spell and power are really cool.
    Only two complaint the spell should be aviable to bard and the surge ablity benefit wilder more than sorcerer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaynor View Post
    If you want, I could edit in the revised class for you. Just send me a PM with the class included.

    Edit: Have you considered deleting the post and simply posting the revised one? Never mind you said you couldn't edit, duh. Maybe just post the new one and ask to have the first ignored?
    At this point I probably look mad, but it won't PM either. May I send it to your e-mail account instead?

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    Does the post contain the word "lynx", perchance?

    Edit: Yes go ahead and e-mail me, but I suspect the above word may be the problem. Try removing it from the post or placing a white-text character immediately after it (no space). I remember people having problems posting "lynx" with a space after it. Just tried it and that's most likely the problem, with this contest being about nature. Something to do with an illegal combination of characters, I'm not sure if there's a way to fix it.
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    "Lynx" ... heh. Gotta remember that one.

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    Yeah it's pretty odd, not sure why it happens.

    Turns out that wasn't the problem, though. It's weird that it wouldn't let him post his entry anywhere on the site (even in a PM).

    Oh well, I've changed it for him now.
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    Huzzah! Thank you.

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    No problem.
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    Already ? Wow i was sure that i still got a few day. Well i will peach immediatly the two last class then:
    Thanks; always appreciated.

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    Skills Nice but perhaps lot of skill point for a spellcasting/manifesting class.
    It's meant to be more fey-like, hence the d6 HD, good Ref saves, and 6+Int skill points. I figured it would be fine given the loss of caster level at 1st level.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    Bab, saves: just a niptick, you forget to put + before the number in the saves column.
    Changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    No line for weapon and armor prof ? None gain I assume but it's traditional.
    I'm following the format from later books, namely Complete Mage, where the armor/weapon proficiency line doesn't appear unless the class actually provides it. It doesn't really make sense to have it there when the vast majority of PrCs don't get any anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    Ecstatic Surge: Nice but seem better for wilder than sorcerer despite the surpassing max aspect.
    Yeah, that is true. Still, there are some nice things you can use it for, especially powerful spells like Alter Self, Contingency, and Polymorph. I tried to make most of the new spells vary based on caster level as well so that this is more useful.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    Fey Bond: Why calling it fey bond when it's just nymph kiss as a bonus feat ?
    Because Nymph's Kiss is exalted, and the class allows neutral entrants. Nymph's Kiss fit the flavor of the class quite well, but I didn't want the association with Exalted Good to be there, so I made the ability a functional equivalent.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    Call Nature's Defenders: Whoa, one spell that replace the whole summone monster line. Less versatility but for sorcerer it's awesome.
    excellent idea.
    Yeah, I hated how Summon Monster is basically worthless for sorcerers, and wanted something similar to Astral Construct for arcane casters. The execution isn't as elegant as Astral Construct, but it works well enough and I like the result.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    Feywyld Luck: Luck reroll again ? Good spell even with the requirement 3rd level sound better to me. But I might overly cautious.
    Heh, yeah, a bit of a rehash. Still, I like the idea of leprechauns granting people good luck, so I made this. I wanted a few extra options for Fey Knowledge as well. Since it does require an extra feat and it takes actions to use luck rerolls, I decided to err on the side of making it a bit too good rather than a bit too weak. Overall, it's probably fine by itself, though it may be too strong when used alongside my other luck spells. Oh well.

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    Wild Transformation: Interesting too and not overpowered like some other polymorph spell.
    Haha, glad I didn't make it be based off Wild Shape then.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    Only complaint about this spell is that they should also be on the bard spell list.
    You're absolutely right. Added now. That also opens up the PrC to bard entry, which isn't bad especially with Sublime Chord. The interaction with Call Nature's Defenders will be a bit weird, but that can't be helped.

    Quote Originally Posted by zagan View Post
    Only two complaint the spell should be aviable to bard and the surge ablity benefit wilder more than sorcerer.
    Fixed the first. For the second, I added an extra bit so that it lets you use metamagic without increasing casting time while surging. It's not huge, but it may save you a feat on Rapid Metamagic, and does tip the balance a little. Better?

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    Again sorry if it's a little short.
    No problem. You've been very helpful.
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    I realize it's a bit late, but I really haven't had the time to finish my entry since school started. However, I still like what I have so far, so I think I will work on it later when I won't churn out a terrible rush job. Good luck to the current entries, there's some REALLY awesome stuff going on here.

    I'm still keeping an eye on these contests, so I think I'll make a better attempt in a later month.

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    Race: this seem like a very original idea at the first glance but i would have just include those bonus and penality as a first level ability in the Prc seem easier to me. Any specific reason for why you've gone this route ?
    I originally did, but I dropped them on one of the many changes in when abilities were earned. I'll give it some thought when I revise it next.

    Prereq: A little weird ability score are rarely used for prc and more for feat. Perhaps too easy too but you also need to find the way to become an evolved warg so it add a roleplaying requirement.
    I'll put some thought into that. This is meant to be a more martial class PrC, but I suppose I can make it a bit harder.
    Skill, Bab, saves: Why not fort save ? Seem to make more sense to me.
    Yeah, you're probably right there.

    Feral Charge: Original ability. The per day limit is a little harsh per encounter would make more sense.
    I actually completely forgot you could do things on a per-encounter basis. That's a much better idea.

    Rend and Tear: So it's a pseudo pounce if you succed on a bull-rush. It's an original idea.
    I wanted this to work with the Rebounding Charge, since the pounce ability would end the chain.

    Agile charge: Much better. Can it be used even without obstacle ?
    Yes, and that's a good thing to specify. Nice catch.
    Soul of the Predator: underwhelming capstone but logical.
    I was actually worried about it being too powerful. I had one more ability that was attached to this and Bestial Heart that I dropped for balance reasons. It was a bloodlust-type deal where killing an enemy gave a chance to gain a couple of bonuses, or each enemy killed per encounter would give a bonus for a short time. I think I could work that into something a little more interesting and tack it back in.

    Fluff: you need to finish it otherwose the class is disqualified.
    Yeah, I was planning on working on this for the past two weeks, but school absolutely wrecked my free time, more than I thought it would. I still have some cool stuff written up, so it's definitely getting finished eventually.

    Conclusions: I'm not very impressed, but for a first try it's not bad just need more polishing.
    Well thanks a bunch! It's good to know that your work isn't a complete pile of junk.
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    It's meant to be more fey-like, hence the d6 HD, good Ref saves, and 6+Int skill points. I figured it would be fine given the loss of caster level at 1st level.
    Okay, why not. They're Cha based anyway so it's not abusive.

    I'm following the format from later books, namely Complete Mage, where the armor/weapon proficiency line doesn't appear unless the class actually provides it. It doesn't really make sense to have it there when the vast majority of PrCs don't get any anyways.
    Didn't notice that.

    Yeah, that is true. Still, there are some nice things you can use it for, especially powerful spells like Alter Self, Contingency, and Polymorph. I tried to make most of the new spells vary based on caster level as well so that this is more useful.
    Okay.

    Because Nymph's Kiss is exalted, and the class allows neutral entrants. Nymph's Kiss fit the flavor of the class quite well, but I didn't want the association with Exalted Good to be there, so I made the ability a functional equivalent.
    Didn't remember that detail.

    Yeah, I hated how Summon Monster is basically worthless for sorcerers, and wanted something similar to Astral Construct for arcane casters. The execution isn't as elegant as Astral Construct, but it works well enough and I like the result.
    It's quite good.

    Heh, yeah, a bit of a rehash. Still, I like the idea of leprechauns granting people good luck, so I made this. I wanted a few extra options for Fey Knowledge as well. Since it does require an extra feat and it takes actions to use luck rerolls, I decided to err on the side of making it a bit too good rather than a bit too weak. Overall, it's probably fine by itself, though it may be too strong when used alongside my other luck spells. Oh well.
    Sure.

    You're absolutely right. Added now. That also opens up the PrC to bard entry, which isn't bad especially with Sublime Chord. The interaction with Call Nature's Defenders will be a bit weird, but that can't be helped.
    Great.

    Fixed the first. For the second, I added an extra bit so that it lets you use metamagic without increasing casting time while surging. It's not huge, but it may save you a feat on Rapid Metamagic, and does tip the balance a little. Better?
    It help balance it, avoid a feat tax as you said so that's good.
    Thinking about it you could allow the class to progress the familiar if any. Fit the nature theme and not too powerfull. But as his it's alright.

    No problem. You've been very helpful.




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    I actually completely forgot you could do things on a per-encounter basis. That's a much better idea.
    Great.

    I wanted this to work with the Rebounding Charge, since the pounce ability would end the chain.
    Ah i didn't see that combo, nice idea !

    Yes, and that's a good thing to specify. Nice catch.
    Thanks.

    I was actually worried about it being too powerful. I had one more ability that was attached to this and Bestial Heart that I dropped for balance reasons. It was a bloodlust-type deal where killing an enemy gave a chance to gain a couple of bonuses, or each enemy killed per encounter would give a bonus for a short time. I think I could work that into something a little more interesting and tack it back in.
    That sound like a very good idea.

    Yeah, I was planning on working on this for the past two weeks, but school absolutely wrecked my free time, more than I thought it would. I still have some cool stuff written up, so it's definitely getting finished eventually.
    It happen don't worry about it.

    Well thanks a bunch! It's good to know that your work isn't a complete pile of junk.
    You'll get better, for a first try (?) it was quite good. I'm really ashamed of my own first try so don't worry.
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    Finally updated Deadwood with references to the Children of the Mausoleum. Lord_Gareth, I'd love your input into whether I've gotten that right; it sounds good to you.

    Need to rethink the Cleric requirements still... Did that. Feedback would be most appreciated.

    Also, I am at like 49,990 characters. Argh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragoonWraith View Post

    Need to rethink the Cleric requirements still... Did that. Feedback would be most appreciated.
    Maybe instead of Greater Spell Focus(Necromancy) require Skill Focus-Knowledge(Nature)? That fits with the idea that they want clerics more attuned to nature?
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    Any more critiques or comments on the Child of Petriel before the contest is done? I don't have much time, but anything would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    Maybe instead of Greater Spell Focus(Necromancy) require Skill Focus-Knowledge(Nature)? That fits with the idea that they want clerics more attuned to nature?
    That's... a very good idea. Hrm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unosarta View Post
    Any more critiques or comments on the Child of Petriel before the contest is done? I don't have much time, but anything would be appreciated.
    The class as a whole seems well done.

    A few quick thoughts- Should Ecstatic Surge count as Wild Surge for prerequisite purposes? This might make sense but would then require all sorts of hard thinking about how relevant PrCs and feats interacted with it so this is probably not a good idea.

    Fey Knowledge- I'd add a quick note that spells and powers learned this way do not count against your total number of spells known. Also, you may want to specify if spells and powers learned this way go to just one spellcasting/manifesting class or all of them (relevant if for example a sorcerer/bard takes levels in the class.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    The class as a whole seems well done.

    A few quick thoughts- Should Ecstatic Surge count as Wild Surge for prerequisite purposes? This might make sense but would then require all sorts of hard thinking about how relevant PrCs and feats interacted with it so this is probably not a good idea.

    Fey Knowledge- I'd add a quick note that spells and powers learned this way do not count against your total number of spells known. Also, you may want to specify if spells and powers learned this way go to just one spellcasting/manifesting class or all of them (relevant if for example a sorcerer/bard takes levels in the class.)
    Um... wrong class.

    Here is what I was asking about. I think you are thinking of Children of the Seelie Court, which is PId6's Prestige Class.
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    Um... wrong class.

    Here is what I was asking about. I think you are thinking of Children of the Seelie Court, which is PId6's Prestige Class.
    Oops. Right. Um, looking at yours now.

    Prerequisites-
    Where is Hawks Vision from? I'm not familiar with that feat. (In general when using feats outside core it isn't a bad idea to note what book they are from).
    Survival- why require 9 ranks? Is there a balance issue here that I'm not seeing? 8 ranks would seem to be enough and then let's one take the first level of the PrC at 6th level. This forces one to start taking it at 7th level.

    The capstone is well done and captures the flavor well.

    Some description of what House Petriel is would be nice (how is it organized? What do are their goals? Etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    Oops. Right. Um, looking at yours now.
    Oh, it's no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    Prerequisites-
    Where is Hawks Vision from? I'm not familiar with that feat. (In general when using feats outside core it isn't a bad idea to note what book they are from).
    Survival- why require 9 ranks? Is there a balance issue here that I'm not seeing? 8 ranks would seem to be enough and then let's one take the first level of the PrC at 6th level. This forces one to start taking it at 7th level.
    Hawk's Vision is from Complete Adventurer. I will note it in the prerequisites. Also, the maximum ranks are your level +3. So, the maximum for Survival at level 6 is 9.

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    The capstone is well done and captures the flavor well.
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    Some description of what House Petriel is would be nice (how is it organized? What do are their goals? Etc.)
    OK, will do. Thanks!

    Also, where would I detail House Petriel? I am assuming as an organization at the bottom of the post. Of course, they are kind of too loose to be an organization. I will write one up anyway.


    [Edit]: Also, I was thinking that the prerequisite would be any one Wild feat, instead of just Hawk's Vision. Thoughts?
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    Where is Hawks Vision from?
    {Scrubbed}

    The above is the motherlode. Tell it to search 'all' feats. It's got pretty much every official 3.0/3.5 feat ever made.

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    OK, now I have House Petriel written up and everything is updated. Any other comments or concerns on balance or fluff?
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    OK, now I have House Petriel written up and everything is updated. Any other comments or concerns on balance or fluff?
    Looks good (I'm guessing that House Petriel is part of some larger setting with Elven houses and the like?). Overall, I like it.
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    Looks good (I'm guessing that House Petriel is part of some larger setting with Elven houses and the like?). Overall, I like it.
    I linked it at the very bottom of the page. It is my homebrew campaign setting. Basically, if you don't want to read it, there is an "overgod" (he isn't the real overgod of the setting, but likes to think he is), and he sent down "angels" (called angele), in order to protect mortals from the devastating beasts and monsters of the Primal Gods (magical beasts and elementals, really). Those Angele were all women, incredible fighters, blah, blah, blah. So, they were not content with just watching over the mortal races and teaching them to protect themselves. So, the Angele started taking up mortal lovers. This wasn't really a bad thing, necessarily. The mortals could sort of handle it, and everything was cool. The children of the Angele were the Elves; of mortal and divine blood. They couldn't really rely on their parents for support, so a large group found an island off new human lands, and stayed there. They named it Veshre.

    Because it was all but impossible for the "overgod" to appear to the mortals, they started worshiping Angele as sort of "faux" gods. This angered the "overgod," and he decided to punish the Angele. So, he sent in his other servants the Diablo. They were almost the opposite of the Angele, male, but weak in battle. They were very proficient in magic, though, and quickly and silently found their former allies the Angele, and took them out, sending all but one into a coma, and hiding them (once they have been on the material plane, they can never return to his plane). The one that escaped went to the north, and parlayed with the Orcs.

    Anyway, so, when the Angele left, the Elves started taking over. This is also the point where House Petriel ran away from Veshre, and found their way into the deserts of the south, and the forests of the north. They thought that because they were more physically beautiful than the other races, and the descendants of the Angele, that they deserved to rule the other races. They created a vast empire, that had a hold over the gnomes and the humans, but not stretching up into the area of the kobolds (who probably would have kicked Elvin butt anyway), and not to the Vorde.

    When they were finally defeated, the Humans and Gnomes were all but out of resources, the Elves were trounced, and pushed all the way back to their first island. It was at this point that the children of the Primal Gods started their major invasions. It was also the point during which the Diablo came to the leaders of almost every race (excepting the Dwarves, who are too nomadic to be found, the Druids, who worship their own god, and the Kobolds, who would have attacked them on sight), and offered to teach them magic, if they would pledge to worship the "overgod" and only him. Almost everyone agreed. This is close to the point that the timeline is currently in, probably 100 years before that point.

    This was just a basic summary. If you want to read more, I would recommend reading the actual thread, located Here.
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    The class as a whole seems well done.
    Heh, unintended, but thanks for the look over anyway.

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    A few quick thoughts- Should Ecstatic Surge count as Wild Surge for prerequisite purposes? This might make sense but would then require all sorts of hard thinking about how relevant PrCs and feats interacted with it so this is probably not a good idea.
    Not doing this since it can lead to weird interactions where an arcane caster satisfies Wild Surge requirements. I doubt it would affect much anyways, since very few things I know of require Wild Surge +3 or higher.

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    Fey Knowledge- I'd add a quick note that spells and powers learned this way do not count against your total number of spells known. Also, you may want to specify if spells and powers learned this way go to just one spellcasting/manifesting class or all of them (relevant if for example a sorcerer/bard takes levels in the class.)
    Done. I made it add it to all classes since that helps Bard/Sublime Chords quite a bit.

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    I added the racial statistics for Elves of House Petriel, since it stands to reason that they would get different ability scores bonuses and penalties, as well as other racial abilities.

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    Finally updated Deadwood with references to the Children of the Mausoleum. Lord_Gareth, I'd love your input into whether I've gotten that right; it sounds good to you.

    Need to rethink the Cleric requirements still... Did that. Feedback would be most appreciated.

    Also, I am at like 49,990 characters. Argh.
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