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2010-09-13, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Warrior, Thief, Priest, Mage...
As a thought experiment, how would you create these 4 types of characters for a 4 character party? Use gestalt and any WoTC 3.5 source.
My thoughts -
Warrior - Warblade//Psychic Warrior w/ Soulbound Weapon ACF
Thief - Factotum//Artificer
Mage - Wizard//Binder
Priest - Favored Soul//Crusader
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2010-09-13, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Warrior, Thief, Priest, Mage...
Warblade//Psywar? Psywar is Wis dependent, Warblade is somewhate Int dependent, gestalting would make it a tad MAD. Swordsage//Psywar would be less mad, because Swordsages benefit from a solid Wis.
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2010-09-14, 12:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Warrior, Thief, Priest, Mage...
Hmmm, I'd say...
Warrior- Lion Spirit Totem Barbarian//Totemist
Priest- Druid//Unarmed Swordsage
Mage- Sorcerer//Dragonfire Adept
Thief- Beguiler//Factotum
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2010-09-14, 01:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Warrior, Thief, Priest, Mage...
The thing with gestalt is that there's no reason to restrict yourself to one archetype. It's quite easy for your "Mage" to double as skillmonkey (Wizard/Factotum), and most "Warriors" should probably be gishes in mid-high op games. If you're just going for being great at a particular archetype, however, I'd imagine something like this:
Warrior - Warblade//Psion - Int synergy. Uses powers to buff oneself and increase action economy. Expanded Knowledge for good PsyWar powers like Expansion, then beatstick and profit.
Thief - Artificer//Factotum - Awesome Int synergy. Factotum covers skills and action abuse while artificer makes items for the party and uses utility wands/scrolls where needed. Does everything.
Mage/Priest - Wizard//Archivist - More Int synergy. Knows a ridiculous number of spells and batmans everything possible. Sticks to battlefield control and utility spells for wizard side, and buffs and useful divine spells on the archivist side.
That fulfills all four roles, so fourth can be nearly anything. I'd go with either one of these:
Boomstick - Sorcerer//Dip Happy - Cha synergy to the Nth power. Dip paladin 2 for Divine Grace. Dip cloistered cleric for Turn Undead and domains. Dip crusader for lots of maneuvers and stances. Can be either a gish or a blaster, or both, depending on spells selected. Favored soul kinda works in place of sorcerer for gishes, while wilder can substitute for blaster-types, but sorcerer's just so much classier than both.
Gatling Gun - Cloistered Cleric//Dip Happy - Cleric archer for good ranged support with a secondary capacity for buffing the party. Dip barbarian for Whirling Frenzy, dip swordsage for maneuvers/stances, dip monk for AC bonus and bonus feats, and dip fighter/ranger/psychic warrior for bonus feats. Try to get all the archer feats via bonus feats so that regular feats can all be spent on Extra Turnings or metamagic. Can also take ardent levels for Wis-synergy and good powers.Rogue Handbook | Warmage Rebuild | Diablo's Assassin | Revised Classes
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2010-09-14, 01:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Warrior, Thief, Priest, Mage...
Warrior: Time to geek out on Tome of Battle.
Warblade 20 // Swordsage 2 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2 / Barbarian 2 / Psychic Warrior 2 / Crusader 2 / Uncanny Trickster 3 / Master of Nine 5.
With the Feat variant for the Rogue levels and the Whirling Frenzy, Lion Spirit Totem, and Wolf Totem variants for the Barbarian levels.
Thief: Way too many choices here. I'll go with the swashbuckling type this time, I guess ...
Beguiler 19 / Mindbender 1 // Rogue 2 / Factotum 3 / Swashbuckler 3 / Swordsage 2 / Uncanny Trickster 3 / Warblade 7
Mage: What flavor of mage are we talking, here? The scholarly type?
Factotum 20 // (homebrew-fixed) Truenamer 20
or the flashy blasty type?
Dragonfire Adept 20 // Totemist 20
or the creepy type?
Warlock 17 / Hellfire Warlock 3 // Binder 20
Priest
Ardent 15 / Sangehirn 5 // Crusader 20You can call me Draz.
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2010-09-14, 07:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Warrior, Thief, Priest, Mage...
I'd try to get all of the gestalts at around the same tier. Choose a tier:
Warrior:
Tier 1:
Druid//Psychic Warrior or Druid//Swordsage
Tier 2:
Warblade//Factotum
Tier 3:
Swashbuckler//Duskblade
Tier 4+:
Paladin//Knight
Healer:
Tier 1:
Cleric//Incarnate or Druid//Totemist
Tier 2:
Favored Soul//Sorceror
Tier 3:
Dragon Shaman//Incarnate
Tier 4+:
Healer//Crusader
Mage:
Tier 1:
Focused Specialst Conjurer/Master Specialist//Archivist
Tier 2:
Sorceror//Favored Soul
Tier 3:
Binder//Warlock
Tier 4+:
Dragonfire Adept//Soulborn
Thief:
Tier 1:
Artificer//Factotum
Tier 2:
Incarnate//Factotum
Tier 3:
Beguiler//Warblade
Tier 4+:
Rogue//Hexblade