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    how?
    thanks in advance. starting at level 2, building all the way up/
    ideas for fenrir would be nice aswell
    i understand it cant be the full awesome of sephiroth as a tier three. but still.
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    Wut.

    Are you looking for stats for Sephiroth as a monster? A build that imitates Sephiroth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Wut.

    Are you looking for stats for Sephiroth as a monster? A build that imitates Sephiroth?
    My character is a fusion of myself and sephiroth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awnetu View Post
    My character is a fusion of myself and sephiroth
    Why did you have to remind me of that thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Why did you have to remind me of that thread?
    Can I get a link to that thread? Sounds very interesting.

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    Sephiroth, in his purest form, is:
    Magic-Blooded Human Warblade 5/Ur-Priest 2/Ruby Knight Vindicator 10 with 3 levels of Titan Bloodline so "Only he can wield Masamune" (actually a Gargantuan Bastard Sword). You got your swordplay, your casting, and his supernatural abilities. Perhaps add in Spellwarped if you're going epic. He has Leadership, and his cohort is Jenova, who is an abberation with spellcasting.

    Become Bizarro/Safer Sephiroth are Epic spells that heal him to full and allow him to Polymorph into other, more powerful forms. They are Contingent on his death. The DC is mitigated by using the Lifestream down to Cost 0 (he only has two epic spells since he only has Knowledge (religion) in the twenties). Only Sephiroth has epic magic in this setting, and using the Lifestream to cast these spells would drain the sanity of those who use it. Fortunately, Sephiroth is already stark raving mad.
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    Obviously he will have Monkey Grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esser-Z View Post
    Obviously he will have Monkey Grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinker View Post
    You are a bad person.
    How else is he going to get that oversized sword?!

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    Ragnorra from Elder Evils actually greatly resembles Jenova. She comes on a comet, splatters bits and pieces of herself on the surface of the planet, and begins a "Reunion." Once she assembles enough of herself, she begins to cover the earth and begin spawning Aberrations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Esser-Z View Post
    How else is he going to get that oversized sword?!
    Titan Bloodline (for gargantuan weapons), Those gauntlets from the MIC that allow you to wield weapons one size catagory larger, Goliath/Half-Giant.

    Anything but Monkey Grip!

    Quote Originally Posted by AslanCross View Post
    Ragnorra from Elder Evils actually greatly resembles Jenova. She comes on a comet, splatters bits and pieces of herself on the surface of the planet, and begins a "Reunion." Once she assembles enough of herself, she begins to cover the earth and begin spawning Aberrations.
    Hey, that means we can make him devoted to her, giving him extra feats to spend on his madness and depravity. Extra reach and immunity to mind-affecting spells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khatoblepas View Post
    Titan Bloodline (for gargantuan weapons), Those gauntlets from the MIC that allow you to wield weapons one size catagory larger, Goliath/Half-Giant.

    Anything but Monkey Grip!
    Still not big enough! That things ridiculously long!

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    But there's no point in making taking a feat that ultimately makes him worse at fighting...
    What I do every time I see someone complain that their DM is a jerk just because some class/race/book/feat/etc. is not allowed at the gaming table.

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    Not if you're building for effectiveness, no!


    Mind, I still say Cloud should've ditched the buster sword and took the guy on with a regular one. If you can move something that big fast and precisely, you can move a normal blade much, much faster!

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    Cant you take something like the Strongarm Bracers or somesuch to get the feat without taking it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khatoblepas View Post
    Titan Bloodline (for gargantuan weapons), Those gauntlets from the MIC that allow you to wield weapons one size catagory larger, Goliath/Half-Giant.
    That's not what the Titan Bloodline ability actually does. You get Use oversized weapon (Ex) as the titan special ability. Let's look what that says:
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    A titan wields a great, two-handed warhammer (big enough for Gargantuan creatures) without penalty.
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    Can we use Aptitude Weapon cheese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Can we use Aptitude Weapon cheese?
    I'm fairly certain that Aptitude only applies to feats. I'm away from books right now so I can't be sure.

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    I like the idea of worshipping Ragnorra, but if you want to be able to spread the virus as well you could reflavour the necromantic cyst from libris mortif, then maybe go Sorcadin (paladin/sorceror)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esser-Z View Post
    Mind, I still say Cloud should've ditched the buster sword and took the guy on with a regular one. If you can move something that big fast and precisely, you can move a normal blade much, much faster!
    Relevant.

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    -sigh- I'd tell you to go fall on your sword for suggesting this, but in this particular instance, you'd be falling a looooooong time.
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    What can be done with Powerful Build / Monkey Grip / Full-blade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maerok View Post
    What can be done with Powerful Build / Monkey Grip / Full-blade?
    Nothing. Monkey Grip and Powerful Build do not stack.

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    I wonder, can't your character just take greatsword stats, and say: "My sword is ridiculously long, and I'm so raw and dandruff free that I can make it work somehow, with footwork and stabs ...blah....".

    This is simplest and best solution IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khatoblepas View Post
    Sephiroth, in his purest form, is:
    Magic-Blooded Human Warblade 5/Ur-Priest 2/Ruby Knight Vindicator 10 with 3 levels of Titan Bloodline so "Only he can wield Masamune" (actually a Gargantuan Bastard Sword). You got your swordplay, your casting, and his supernatural abilities. Perhaps add in Spellwarped if you're going epic. He has Leadership, and his cohort is Jenova, who is an abberation with spellcasting.

    Become Bizarro/Safer Sephiroth are Epic spells that heal him to full and allow him to Polymorph into other, more powerful forms. They are Contingent on his death. The DC is mitigated by using the Lifestream down to Cost 0 (he only has two epic spells since he only has Knowledge (religion) in the twenties). Only Sephiroth has epic magic in this setting, and using the Lifestream to cast these spells would drain the sanity of those who use it. Fortunately, Sephiroth is already stark raving mad.
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    I don't think there's enough hair product to effectively cover that character outside of an FF setting.

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    I hate to tangent off, but what does everyone think of the Elven Court Sword from races of the wild? As described, it does slightly less damage than a Greatsword, does slashing or piercing damage, and is finesse-able. I've been considering rolling up a Swashbuckler with one and describing the court sword as a masamune-style nodachi.

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    I don't want to go all 'katanas are underpowered in 3.5' glorious sword-worshiping, but my perception of the katana vs. bastard sword was always that the katana was a lighter, faster kind of sword, and I always wondered why it wasn't finessable. The fact that the court sword is finesse-able makes me picture it as a long katana, rather than the oversized rapier that I think it's supposed to be.
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    actually, right now im rocking the burlew homebrew of the champion.
    fits.
    thanks for all your replies folks. will take the information.
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