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    Pixie in the Playground
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    Thumbs down [4E] Fighter's Combat Challenge Mark + Mountain's Thunder (MC)

    Question.

    4E Fighter's Combat Challenge text includes this:

    "Every time you attack a target, whether the attack hits or misses, you can choose to mark that target."

    Form of Mountain's Thunder, a Warden daily, says this:

    "Once per round when you hit an enemy with a melee attack, each enemy marked by you takes damage equal to your Strength modifier."

    So what happens when a fighter multi-classing this ability attacks a previously unmarked target? Does the mark apply before the daily effect goes off, thus causing the extra damage to *always* have the chance to occur on any hit? Or is the mark applied after the originating attack completes?

    Basically, when is a fighter's mark applied compared to the action that allows it to be placed?

    Thanks!

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    Ettin in the Playground
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    Default Re: [4E] Fighter's Combat Challenge Mark + Mountain's Thunder (MC)

    Attack takes place before a hit, so the mark applies prior to the effect of the daily.

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    Orc in the Playground
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    Default Re: [4E] Fighter's Combat Challenge Mark + Mountain's Thunder (MC)

    That would mean that the Feat "marked scourge" from martial power adds his +Wis mod damage to EACH and ANY fighter attack?

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    Default Re: [4E] Fighter's Combat Challenge Mark + Mountain's Thunder (MC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelmaker View Post
    That would mean that the Feat "marked scourge" from martial power adds his +Wis mod damage to EACH and ANY fighter attack?
    No, because it was errata'ed to state "once per round".
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    Orc in the Playground
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    Default Re: [4E] Fighter's Combat Challenge Mark + Mountain's Thunder (MC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurald Galain View Post
    No, because it was errata'ed to state "once per round".
    But it still deals the extra damage even to targets that were previously unmarked, the second you attack it?

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    Ettin in the Playground
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    Default Re: [4E] Fighter's Combat Challenge Mark + Mountain's Thunder (MC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelmaker View Post
    But it still deals the extra damage even to targets that were previously unmarked, the second you attack it?
    Attack and hit as the RAW presented to me in this thread states.

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    Default Re: [4E] Fighter's Combat Challenge Mark + Mountain's Thunder (MC)

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelmaker View Post
    But it still deals the extra damage even to targets that were previously unmarked, the second you attack it?
    I don't have the power in front of me, I'd want to look at the wording. If it says it deals the extra damage when you *attack* a marked target then it only affects targets that were already marked, as the target you attacked was not marked when you made the attack. If it says it deals the extra damage when you damage or hit a marked target, then I'd say it looks like RAW would apply if you choose to mark the target with that attack, as the mark would seem to be applied as soon as you have attacked, before the hit/damage are determined.
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