[3.5] Where is awakened from?

[The Rabbler]

The title says it all; I can't seem to find it.

[Kylarra]

Result of this spell perhaps?

or maybe I'm missing something.

[Forged Fury]

The title says it all; I can't seem to find it.

Uh, I'm not so sure the title says it all. Can you put "awakened" in context?

The most obvious choice would be the spell Awaken.

ETA: Swordsaged

[DragoonWraith]

Awakened is not, as you might expect, a Template. Instead, "Awakened" creatures are ones who have had Awaken ______ cast on them. There's an Awaken variant for just about every usually-mindless creature type.

[The Rabbler]

I thought there was a template for it.

well that explains it; sorry for the bad question.

[The Rabbler]

similar question then; how do I make an anthro-animal?

[Flickerdart]

similar question then; how do I make an anthro-animal?

Those rules are in Savage Species, I believe. Don't use them.

[Coidzor]

There are several options for your furry needs if you really need to be one without cracking open that template.

[The Rabbler]

this is because my group wants me to be less powerful. they think me being an animal will accomplish that better.

[Brendan]

I don't think playing an anthropomorphic bat would make you weaker...

[Coidzor]

Or a tibbet for that matter.

Um. Yeah...

Maybe some other direction and background info would help.

[NineThePuma]

Seconded. Also seconding the desire for rules though.

[DragoonWraith]

Can't tell you, it's not free info. You'll have to buy Savage Species for it.

[Prime32]

this is because my group wants me to be less powerful. they think me being an animal will accomplish that better.

...I'm not sure you know what "anthropomorphic" means.

You have human level intelligence, you can still talk and wield weapons. But you get a bunch of overpowered animal-themed abilities too (anthro squids keep their extra limbs for instance, getting insane grapple bonuses, while anthro bats have +6 Wis, flight and blindsight for LA +0).

[ToySoldierCPlus]

Not that being an awakened animal is much better. Broken in the opposite direction, that, as spells with somatic components are out, you can't wield weapons, and you arguably can't take class levels in the first place. YMMV on that last part, however.

[Flickerdart]

Not that being an awakened animal is much better. Broken in the opposite direction, that, as spells with somatic components are out, you can't wield weapons, and you arguably can't take class levels in the first place. YMMV on that last part, however.

A maximized awaken leaves you with a tasty 18 INT, though, and a +3 CHA. Or all 18s in mental stats if you're a tree. You know what loves 18 INT and doesn't give a rat's ass about somatic components or weapons? Psionics.

[The Rabbler]

this is my group's suggestion, not my own. I normally dominate our games by knowing what to do when something happens. Usually this is blamed on my characters (Ex. people think I'm cheating when my swordsage teleports to jump a large gap.)

for the record, I never play casters. ever. the closest thing to a caster that I've ever played with this group is a psychic warrior/pyrokineticist (also called overpowered). Generally, I try to be the tank and let everyone else do their own ineffective thing while I try to be useful.

anyway, they're tired of me being so effective, so they think that me being an animal might take me down a notch or two. I've tried telling them that it won't, but they're set on it.

thanks for the responses.

EDIT: and yes, I am aware of what both awakened and anthropomorphic mean for a character, I just didn't know where to find it.

[NineThePuma]

... Now I've got this image of a bear running around mind reading people XD

[Ravens_cry]

I so want to play an awakened cat some time as a rogue. Now scratch my belly human, your master requires it.

[ToySoldierCPlus]

A maximized awaken leaves you with a tasty 18 INT, though, and a +3 CHA. Or all 18s in mental stats if you're a tree. You know what loves 18 INT and doesn't give a rat's ass about somatic components or weapons? Psionics.

True, and I do so love psionics. Still leaves you with the potential problem of not being able to take class levels as an awakened animal, but that's more up to your DM than anything else. Of course, if your DM is allowing awakened animals as characters, they've already decided that it's fine for them to take class levels, but I remember reading something about creatures having to have an overall humanoid shape and above-animal intelligence to take class levels. No clue where I think found that at this point, though.

[The Rabbler]

I so want to play an awakened cat some time as a rogue. Now scratch my belly human, your master requires it.

a cat shadowdancer would be fun.

[Coidzor]

No, no, no. A cat shadowdancer is fine too.

Anyway, progressively gimping your characters simply because you are more aware of your abilities than the other players is... perhaps not the best solution.

[Ravens_cry]

a cat shadowdancer would be fun.

Indubitably, The Rabbler, indubitably.

[Dr.Epic]

Result of this spell perhaps?

Yeah, that's pretty much it. The only thing that changes is that it can talk and has decent int, wis, and cha stats.

[Dralnu]

I now crave to make a Platypus Psion as a BBEG in my campaign. It would be glorious!

[Coidzor]

I now crave to make a Platypus Psion as a BBEG in my campaign. It would be glorious!

Pfft. Just have a Psion Sandvich.

[The Rabbler]

Anyway, progressively gimping your characters simply because you are more aware of your abilities than the other players is... perhaps not the best solution.

I know, but it's all my group really knows how to do. Though some of them have spent time on the playground, none of them really learned much. Before a month ago, they didn't believe that a rogue was allowed to make more than one sneak attack each round (because 30d6 at level 20 is OP amirite?).

more on topic: I play progressively weaker characters and each class that I use generally becomes considered overpowered (from ToB to factoti to psionics in general). Not sure what to do anymore, so I've just started letting them gimp me and I deal with it.

[Coidzor]

Sounds like they need to actually read the rules, especially for their classes.

Have you considered maybe dropping down in tier to, I dunno, Complete Warrior Samurai?

Ooo, or play an Adept.

[NineThePuma]

Complete Warrior Samurai. Or, hell, just a plain old Warrior.

[The Rabbler]

Sounds like they need to actually read the rules, especially for their classes.

Have you considered maybe dropping down in tier to, I dunno, Complete Warrior Samurai?

Ooo, or play an Adept.

I considered the CW samurai, but I still want to be able to do something.

Adept might be worth looking into though.

EDIT: aren't adepts tier 5? definitely too powerful.

Complete Warrior Samurai. Or, hell, just a plain old Warrior.

warrior can still power attack