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Thread: Critters II!
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2010-12-17, 08:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ah, I get ya.
I was planning to issue some stuff like Shield Ward to help with touch attacks, decent shields for that evasiony goodness, etc, but it's going to be martial characters [no TOB] and cunning all the way, so i'll settle for as close as you can get with reasonable CRs...Mine is not so much a Peter Pan Complex as a Peter Pan Doom Fortress and Underground LairTM!
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2010-12-19, 02:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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how do you want to handle the noise throwing off their targeting? Some of their breath weapons would be area effects. Im trying to decide on ranged attack or line for the Nadder, because the wiki says they have a range in hundreds of yards.
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2010-12-19, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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For the noise, i was just going to include it as a thing for dragons in the game because it's cool: Move action counts as concealment as you confuse the buggers a bit.
As to the breath, either works fine. They only seem to have about a 100ft range on the absolute outside in the film so i'm happy to go with that [I really didn't take to the books very well so i'm happy to ignore them completely].
Area effects are cool [after i noticed that Tower Shields basically grant evasion, i just pulled that down to all shields for these purposes...]Mine is not so much a Peter Pan Complex as a Peter Pan Doom Fortress and Underground LairTM!
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2010-12-20, 03:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nadder needs feats and cr. The rest is done and awaiting feedback.
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2010-12-20, 09:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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The deadly nadder can unleash a volley of impaling tail spikes. I'd suggest that you make that a special attack. It probably should have 1d4 spikes that it can use once every 4 rounds causing 1d4 damage each). On a critical hit, the victim is impaled and must spend 2 rounds removing the spike.
Hot breather (Ex): Any target with 5 Hit Dice or fewer that takes damage from the dragon's breath weapon must make a Reflex save (DC 18) or be incinerated, leaving nothing but a pile of ash. The save is Constitution based. Incinerated targets can be raised or resurrected normally.
It should probably have Flyby Feat, Multiattck, Improved Multiattack and Wingover.
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2010-12-20, 10:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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It looks awesome, though pretty potent.
I haven't run pure 3.5 in a long while so if you reckon that a well coordinated group of PCs can face that at level 3-4 [this is the part i can control, right there] can handle it, then let's slap a CR on it and move on!
btw, the Full actions were a nice touch. Certainly behaves like that in the movieMine is not so much a Peter Pan Complex as a Peter Pan Doom Fortress and Underground LairTM!
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2010-12-21, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Deadly nadder looks good. I still recommend Flyby Attack, Multiattack, Improved Multiattack and Wingover as feats.
So, when are you actually going to finish Abner?
Inquiring minds want to know....
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2010-12-21, 07:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Aside from Flyby Attack, most of those seem counter to what it actually getsup to in the film...just sayin...
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2010-12-22, 12:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-12-22, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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CR 6 is slap in the middle of the range i was hoping for. One minor request is to include the save DC for the Heat Metal effect and anything else in the Magnesium Flare ability.
Thanks!
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2010-12-22, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lost your job already?
I'm really sorry to hear that.Demilich avatar by Smuchmuch. Thank you VERY much!
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2010-12-22, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Damn, didn't notice he job thing...
Sorry dude...Mine is not so much a Peter Pan Complex as a Peter Pan Doom Fortress and Underground LairTM!
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2010-12-22, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's okay it wasn't entirely unexpected. It wasn't what they told me it would be, it turned out to be a high stress sales position, except instead of selling products for the most part I was selling the idea that if you solicited your neighbors for charity you would be doing some good.
Turns out the charities were pretty much in name only, the republicans they raised funds for are suing them for scamming them, and the religious donations they take are prosperity gospel televangelists who keep telling people if they send their money to Jesus he'll send them 10,000 dollars for putting a mere 600 bucks on their credit card. Honestly I'm pretty sure they were breaking laws, and it's best in the long run I cut my ties with them now.Revised avatar by Trixie, New avvie by Crisis21!
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2010-12-22, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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So...you were an officially sanctioned Matchstick man and had to pay for the travel to the training? That blows!
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2010-12-23, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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This... this makes me sick. If any one wants to spread their religion, they should not do it through TV, and the should not try and scam people like that.
Also, excuse my ignorance, but
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2010-12-23, 11:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2010-12-24, 01:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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We were asking people to ask their neighbors for money Flabort.
Thanks for the well wishes guys (mass hugs)
Terrible Terrors
Tiny Dragon
Hit Dice: 1d12 (6 hp)
Initiative: +4
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), Climb 20 ft., Fly 60 ft. (Good)
Armor Class: 17 (+2 Size, +4 Dex, +1 Natural), touch 16, flat-footed 13
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/-3
Attack: Bite +5 melee (1d4-4)
Full Attack: Bite +5 melee (1d4-4)
Space/Reach: 2 1/2' ft./0' ft.
Special Attacks: Fire Sniper, Feisty
Special Qualities: Dark Vision 60', dragon traits, Fire Resistance 5
Saves: Fort +2, Ref +6, Will +4
Abilities: Str 3, Dex 18, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 14, Cha 8
Skills: Climb +4, Hide +8, Listen +4, Move Silently +8, Spot +4
Feats: Weapon Finesse
Environment: Warm or Temperate Mountains
Organization: Solitary, Flock 10-200
Challenge Rating: 1
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always Neutral
Advancement: ---
Level Adjustment: ---
"Odin help us."
The Terrible Terror is among the smallest of dragons rarely larger than a cat. Due to their small size and proclivity to travel in flocks they are in some ways more dangerous than bigger dragons as they can easily hide in viking homes and start fires while playing around.
Fire Sniper (Ex): As a Full Round Action up to 6 times per day spit a cute little blast of fire up to a range of 30'. The fire is a ranged touch attack doing 2d6 fire damage, and any flammable materials hit will burst into flame and burn for 1d3 rounds. The Terrible Terrors are incredibly accurate with this fire, and can ignore to hit penalties for Concealment.
Feisty (Ex): Terrible Terrors do not take a Size Penalty to Grapple Checks, and they do not provoke Attacks of Opportunity when entering the square of an opponent due to their size.
Combat: Terrible Terrors tend to play with their food in a manner similar to cats, and spit fire if cornered, angered, or bored.Last edited by Bhu; 2011-01-04 at 02:25 AM.
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2010-12-24, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Altighty, that makes sense.
On topic, is there a such thing as 2.5' reach?Demilich avatar by Smuchmuch. Thank you VERY much!
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2010-12-24, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think you're thinking of the thing Prostitutes do, which is known as soliciting, though that's actually the bit where people stop their car and the lady asks "hey handsome, going my way?"
That bit.
But basically Bhu was asking people to do that to their neighbours for "charity..."Mine is not so much a Peter Pan Complex as a Peter Pan Doom Fortress and Underground LairTM!
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2010-12-24, 01:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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After looking at the Manticore's stat block, I think that the deadly nadder's poison spikes shouldn't be a special attack even though it can only use it twice a day.
Technically, the Point Blank Shot feat doesn't work on the poison spikes because it exceeds the range limit of 30 feet. You should note that this is an exception. Also, the poison spikes should cause piercing damage not untyped damage.
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2010-12-24, 04:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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The Point Blank Shot was mostly included for the ifre, but it will work for the spikes (just only if the target is within 30').
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2010-12-24, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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oh.
Duh.
I didn't look close enough, thanks.Demilich avatar by Smuchmuch. Thank you VERY much!
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2010-12-24, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bulk of the Terrors stats are up. You like?
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2010-12-25, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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I do like.
Never was sure if they were tiny or small [mostly because the D&D books are generally inconsitant on that].
I reckon they deserve that feat you made elsewhere in the thread that allows them to jump on people without AoOs as a bonus feat too.
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2010-12-28, 02:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Terrible Terrors are almost done. You like so far ?
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2010-12-28, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Indeed I am. Maybe add a smidge of damage to the breath, perhaps HD or a stat...
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2010-12-29, 04:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'll think of something, oh and before I forget I updated Abner a few days back.
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2011-01-01, 02:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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would 2d6 for the fire be okay with you?
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2011-01-01, 06:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, that works nicely
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2011-01-03, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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I just thought of something, Shouldn't i be giving the dragons Fire Resistance?
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