Tackle

[Admiral Squish]

Simple question: is a flying tackle a grapple, a bull rush, or a trip attempt?

[Greenish]

Depends on what you're trying to do.

[Admiral Squish]

Depends on what you're trying to do.

assume something along the lines of a football tackle. Jump, grab, and use your weight and momentum to bear them to the ground.

[Quietus]

assume something along the lines of a football tackle. Jump, grab, and use your weight and momentum to bear them to the ground.

Goal : Target on ground
Method : Trip

This case, the tackle is a trip.

[Yuki Akuma]

assume something along the lines of a football tackle. Jump, grab, and use your weight and momentum to bear them to the ground.

That's a trip.

[Admiral Squish]

But the trip mechanics more indicate a creature tripping another with an appendage or weapon while remaining upright themsleves. In addition, there's no way to grapple in the same turn unless you have multiple attacks. I'm looking for a single action, potentially useable at the end of a charge.

[Yuki Akuma]

Grabbing someone and throwing them to the ground is a trip. You don't need to sweep their legs out from under them - you can trip birds.

The trip mechanics are for knocking things prone. That's all. That's the only definition the system has for 'trip'. If you tackle someone and push them to the floor, you are tripping them. If you grab someone and wrestle them to the floor, you are grappling and pinning them. If you tackle someone and push them backwards, you are bullrushing them.

Comprende?

[Coidzor]

I guess you'd mostly just have to houserule that the touch attack at the start counts for both and then roll the checks, depending upon your preference to knock 'em down or to stay connected which to start.

[Greenish]

assume something along the lines of a football tackle. Jump, grab, and use your weight and momentum to bear them to the ground.

That's a foul. Red card and out of the field.

And yeah, you're trying to make the enemy prone: hence, trip.

[Admiral Squish]

That's a foul. Red card and out of the field.

And yeah, you're trying to make the enemy prone: hence, trip.

Wrong football, methinks.

[Greenish]

Wrong football, methinks.

Football is the game where you have an actual ball and play by kicking it with your feet.

[Yuki Akuma]

Football is the game where you have an actual ball and play by kicking it with your feet.

Rugby is a kind of football, by the way. Its full name is... rugby football.

So. Yeah.

Football is called that because it's played on foot, rather than horseback. Originally, football involved carrying the ball and there was no kicking because there were so many players it wouldn't do a thing.

[Lolzords]

Football is the game where you have an actual ball and play by kicking it with your feet.

Then again, in football you don't even need to make a check. Accidentally brush past your average professional player and they'll dive on the floor and start whinging.

[Admiral Squish]

Football is the game where you have an actual ball and play by kicking it with your feet.

But in AMERICA we do it the MANLY way. With 6'5" 400-pound men getting paid ridiculous amounts of money to brutally throw themselves at one another for our entertainment.

[Yuki Akuma]

American footballers wear body armour. That is not manly.

Try playing football in Australia some time. Or rubgy in Britain for that matter.

[Admiral Squish]

Full plate can be pretty damn manly...

[Mongoose87]

American footballers wear body armour. That is not manly.

Try playing football in Australia some time. Or rubgy in Britain for that matter.

If rugby player or australia ballers played the same sort of "300+ lb, slamming your face into someone's body at full speed repeatedly" game that American football players play, they'd have to wear helmets to. To keep them from dying. Because that's what would happen without them.

[Sliver]

I just asked for a touch attack, a grapple check and a str check and winged it from there...

BTW Admiral, you are kicked off the party. Good day.

It's a joke.

[Morph Bark]

But the trip mechanics more indicate a creature tripping another with an appendage or weapon while remaining upright themsleves. In addition, there's no way to grapple in the same turn unless you have multiple attacks. I'm looking for a single action, potentially useable at the end of a charge.

Trip + fall on top of them. Dropping yourself is a free action, I presume.

Football is the game where you have an actual ball and play by kicking it with your feet.

QFT. *non-American-high-five*

But in AMERICA we do it the MANLY way. With 6'5" 400-pound men getting paid ridiculous amounts of money to brutally throw themselves at one another for our entertainment.

*ahem:*

American footballers wear body armour. That is not manly.

Try playing football in Australia some time. Or rubgy in Britain for that matter.

Heck yeah. *shows off rugby bruises*

[Zaq]

Simple question: is a flying tackle a grapple, a bull rush, or a trip attempt?

But... but... Tackle is Normal, not Flying!

I have nothing useful to add to this discussion. As you were.

[Kilmrak]

Would'nt an Overrun attempt be the most suiting action?

[dgnslyr]

On topic:
Since you're trying to knock someone down, I guess it would be a trip, but maybe with a bonus because you're throwing your weight around, and you end up prone as well. I guess it could also do a bit of Slam damage.

Off topic:
Even as an American, I still don't get why football is named as such considering the only times the foot meets the ball is during punts and field goals and whatnot.

[Greenish]

Would'nt an Overrun attempt be the most suiting action?

Ah, good catch, I always forget about that one. Yeah, running into someone and knocking them down is Overrun.

[Yuki Akuma]

Off topic:
Even as an American, I still don't get why football is named as such considering the only times the foot meets the ball is during punts and field goals and whatnot.

Because it's played on foot.

[Morph Bark]

Because it's played on foot.

Then why isn't basketball played on baskets?

[Milskidasith]

Then why isn't basketball played on baskets?

Because not everything follows the same naming conventions?

[Eloel]

Then why isn't basketball played on baskets?

Handball just gained a new image in my head. Thanks.

[Spiryt]

Because it's played on foot.

Well, then as far as non motor sports go, we have a lot of footballs and polo!

[Greenish]

Well, then as far as non motor sports go, we have a lot of footballs and polo!

And of course the most manly of all sports, elephant polo.

[Edit]: Okay, the second most manly sport. The most manly sport is of course Grizzly-Boom tennis:

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[dgnslyr]

And of course the most manly of all sports, elephant polo.

*Without a hint of sarcasm*
Because nothing is quite like playing a gentlemanly game on the backs of the bloodthirstiest animals on earth. Very manly indeed.

edit: tone unclear