D&D 3.5 Jedi? Help

[Ouranos]

So long story short, I have a player who wants to try an Archaic Jedi for D&D 3.5 This would be a Jedi from so "long ago" in the general Star Wars setting that there would be no lightsaber, Jedi Order JUST being founded, etc. but I simply cannot find a decent one in searching. Meaning either I fail at searching, or there aren't any. So I challenge you! Someone help me find a decent Jedi base class that works in 3.5, or can be converted that doesn't use the saber.

[Noodles2375]

The easiest and fastest way would be to use the Jedi Guardian/Jedi Consular classes directly from the SWRPG d20. Not sure if the Saga Edition would port to 3.x, but the revised edition would just fine.

[Ouranos]

Yeah, guess I just never saw the older one. I KNOW Saga won't port, lol

[GodGoblin]

Well using normal 3.5 matirial, A tome of battle class would work like a Swordsage or Wareblade. But i think the most fitting would be a Psychic Warrior, and if you want something like a lightsaber but archaic you could try a adamantium sword (Ignores hardness of objects) and then throw on a flaming or other element damage for colour effect

Personally I would go for PsyWarrior and get the feats that let him run up walls, and mabye use the martail adept feats for Jedi style manuevers

[Morph Bark]

Warblade with Diamond Mind and Iron Heart stuff mixed with Psion (kineticist or telepath) going into Jade Phoenix Mage adapted for manifesters instead of arcane spellcasters.

A few manipulation and movement skill tricks would help as well.

[Noodles2375]

M-Bark's suggestion is money.

I think Eladriel has a solid Manifester/Initiator prestige class patch running around somewhere also.

Edit:

Found it! Obligatory Link below.

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boa...p?topic=7686.0

[ErrantX]

Ziegander did something like that recently called the Esper Knight. It's a really cool option, incarnum use in a different way that is both flavorful and neat.

DaTedinator also did a really awesome Tome of Battle version, two Prestige Classes and a Discipline (Mental Grip). Definitely worth checking out if you're into Tome of Battle.

-X

[Kobold-Bard]

Ziegander did something like that recently called the Esper Knight. It's a really cool option, incarnum use in a different way that is both flavorful and neat.

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Beat me to it. Esper Knight rules.

[Ouranos]

None of the folks I ever run games for or play with are optimizers, most are the base class only types, so we rarely see mixtures. FOund out we had a copy of the old SW rulebook for d20, the one that's very similar to d20 modern. I'm converting a Jedi Consular for her, but thanks for the replies guys, was hoping for something easier, but just gives me something to make my player feel more special :)

[Ziegander]

Beat me to it. Esper Knight rules.

Thanks man! :D (Even if it still isn't quite finished, at least it's fully playable.)

Did you ever get to play it in a game?

[Shpadoinkle]

I'd just use the Psychic Warrior.

[The_Admiral]

I made one though it is sucky