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    Is there any site that gives a good tutorial on 3.5e character creation? That has always been the hardest part for me in the different types of RPGs I've been in, and I've only made 1 D&D 3.5 character. I'm looking to use a homebrewed race/class... but I need help making the character.
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    I don't know of anything like that, unfortunately. I don't know what you're needing help with, but I'd be happy to answer questions, either here or via PM.
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    Oh. Cool. Thanks.

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    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=13

    That's the Mind Flayer I'm using.... I need help with the skills and the HP... the Hit Dice being 8, I start at 8 HP and gain 1d8 HP per level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zyborg View Post
    That's the Mind Flayer I'm using.... I need help with the skills and the HP... the Hit Dice being 8, I start at 8 HP and gain 1d8 HP per level?
    You start with 8+Con modifier hitpoints, and each level you gain 1d8+Con modifier hitpoints.

    You start with 4*(4+Int modifier) skillpoints on first level, and each level after that gain 4+int modifier more. You can invest skill points 1:1 to skills on your class skill list, with the maximum of level+3. For skills not in your skill list, you gain 1 rank for each 2 skillpoints you spend, and your maximum skill rank is (level+3)/2.

    You could also read the Players Handbook or SRD.
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    Thank you very much.
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    My PM box is definitely open as well, if you need any help.
    Additionally, if you're new to the game, the beginning of the PHB has a step-by-step guide for creating first level characters that's not half bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvenblade View Post
    My PM box is definitely open as well, if you need any help.
    Additionally, if you're new to the game, the beginning of the PHB has a step-by-step guide for creating first level characters that's not half bad.
    PHB? Where's that?
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    PHB = Player's Handbook

    There's a ton more standard book abbreviations; I think there's a thread of them somewhere, but I don't know where.
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    I don't own the handbook to 3.5, only 4. Also, I'm making a level 1 Mind Flayer (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=13)

    EDIT: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetvie...sheetid=247647 how's this? Besides equipment and fluff...
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    The guidelines will still apply regardless of what class/race you're making.

    What, exactly, are you wanting to know from the tutorial?
    How to do things (specify what things: skills, feats, weapon selection, etc)? What order to do things? Whether you've done things right (post what you've got so far, and someone can check it)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zyborg View Post
    I don't own the handbook to 3.5, only 4. Also, I'm making a level 1 Mind Flayer (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=13)

    EDIT: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetvie...sheetid=247647 how's this? Besides equipment and fluff...
    You forgot to include your Base Save Bonuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urpriest View Post
    You forgot to include your Base Save Bonuses.
    ... I did that the last time, too. Thanks.
    EDIT: Crud, what are the base saves for one of these guys?
    Last edited by zyborg; 2010-10-16 at 09:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zyborg View Post
    ... I did that the last time, too. Thanks.
    Also, you should probably write out your attack bonus with your tentacles, and I'm a little confused as to why you took so many skills at 2 ranks, rather than getting max ranks in fewer skills.

    Edit: And you haven't included the Natural Armor bonus you get from Mind Flayer Body, and it doesn't look like you've taken into account the effect of Battle of Minds on your social skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urpriest View Post
    Also, you should probably write out your attack bonus with your tentacles, and I'm a little confused as to why you took so many skills at 2 ranks, rather than getting max ranks in fewer skills.
    I thought maximum skill rank was (level+3)/2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zyborg View Post
    I thought maximum skill rank was (level+3)/2?
    That's for cross-class skills. For class skills it's level+3. Your sheet has the correct numbers at the beginning of the skills section.
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    Oh, my bad. So... if I took these skills, it wouldn't be good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zyborg View Post
    Oh, my bad. So... if I took these skills, it wouldn't be good?
    It depends on what you want this character to do. You're weaker than you could be, since some of your skills are two points lower than they could be. It might not ever be a problem depending on how often you'll be using skills. There's nothing wrong with your skill choices per se, I'm just pointing out that you could have focused your ranks more if you chose to.
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    Oh. Okay. I'll guess I'll leave these stats like this. Two more questions...
    Two of those tentacles can be used as natural attacks dealing 1d4+Str damage each. The mind flayer becomes able to use one extra tentacle as a natural attack for each 3 HD it possesses (3 tentacles with 3 HD, 4 tentacles with 6 HD, 5 tentacles with 9 HD, ect).
    since they already start out with HD of 8, wouldn't that mean I automatically get 4 tentacles?

    And how do I find the saving throws for the Mind Flayer? would it be the +2 in the level 1 row under Will?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zyborg View Post
    Oh. Okay. I'll guess I'll leave these stats like this. Two more questions...

    since they already start out with HD of 8, wouldn't that mean I automatically get 4 tentacles?
    No no no. You are thinking of the Mind Flayer in the monster manual. Ignore that. You look like one of those, and your class was designed to fight roughly like one at eighth level. However, you are not that Mind Flayer, you are the Mind Flayer in the class description. You don't gain the monster manual Mind Flayer's ability score adjustments, for example. You have one hit die because you have one level (remember that 8+Con hit points? That's your first hit die.)

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    And how do I find the saving throws for the Mind Flayer? would it be the +2 in the level 1 row under Will?
    Yes. That part of the class table gives your base saves by level.
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    You start with 1 HD. Said HD is a d8. Very different things, although I can see the confusion.

    Edit: Just like Urpriest said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savannah View Post
    You start with 1 HD. Said HD is a d8. Very different things, although I can see the confusion.

    Edit: Just like Urpriest said.

    Thanks. I hate feeling stupid.
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    No problem. It's easy to forget how much jargon we use once you're used to it!
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