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2010-10-27, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Initiate of Nature Fun
ah...Initiate of Nature...how Evil Clerics envy thee
J/K. I've just recently taken the feat and, only being 7th level, was wondering what I should be looking to "command" since I can basically take on an army of squirrels and whatnot now.
Seems like most options come at level 8, since my effective level is only really 6, so 3HD creatures and below only at this point.
Shocker Lizards seem to be my "Top" choice if they count, which I sadly don't think they do. After that looks like Axe Beaks, Wolverines, Wolfs, Cats and the like. Any suggestions as to something more...exotic...I might be skipping over?The Super Special Awesome Yiuel made my very manly Avatar
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2010-10-27, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiate of Nature Fun
If your party needs flying mounts, Dire Hawks/Eagles (Races of Stone) or Dire Bats (Or Desmodu bats from MMII) are all ~3-4 HD and could prove very useful.
If you want to dig your own mountain fortress, charm several dire badgers.
You could just spend 20g to do the same thing, but charm a dozen cows and then use the "auroch" rules to kill enemies via stampede!
Charm a variety of rats, mice, ferrets, and whatnot, then re-enact the Battle of Redwall or the Secret of Nimh :PHandbooks: (Hosted on the new MixMax forums)
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2010-10-27, 09:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiate of Nature Fun
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2010-10-28, 12:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiate of Nature Fun
Stampede description can be found here, though you can't control a single bison yet without any kind of turn boosters. I'm guessing that Aurochs were printed somewhere like Frostburn and also have stampede.
If you have a friend who likes using poison, you can have a pet snake. There's also the smaller version of the constrictor snake you can grab.
You can get a black bear or a swarm of baboons/dogs/riding dogs
But I think your best bets for now are something like 2 black bears, 2 crocodiles, 2 leopards, or acquiring 2 free wild horses, training them to be warhorses, and then being able to control them without needing them occupying cleric commanded animal HD. But that's only if you have downtime available and are feeling a bit stingy. If you've got a grappler, dire weasels would be a good compliment to that tactic by joining in on the grapple and bleeding the grapplee dry.
Dinowise, I believe Swindlespitters are the only half decent one available (2 HD, MM3), though next level you can get 2 fleshrakers which have both dex poison and pounce.
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2010-10-28, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiate of Nature Fun
I've actually been transforming into both of the Dinos, so Swindlespitters might be worth looking for.
The Croc will be a bit hard due to our location, but I might get lucky, you never know. Dire Weasels on the other hand, I'm TERRIBLY tempted since we have a Half-Dragon Minotaur Fighter that is focusing on Grappling (don't ask me, I didn't plant the idea).
The leopards tempt me the most since I already have a Large Cat as an animal companion, so they could work as an attack force and EVENTUALLY, I could probably just train them though Wild Empathy.
Sadly though, I only have about 2 weeks worth of time to collect any kind of animal I could find, so the Warhorse idea is a little scrapped at the moment.The Super Special Awesome Yiuel made my very manly Avatar
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2010-10-28, 02:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiate of Nature Fun
Might wanna take a look at this, as it's the most thought I've seen so far on the matter of bridging the gap from wild empathizing to animal handling.
Depending upon how things go, you might want to keep the Warbeast template in mind as it's 2 months to give an extra HD, stat boosts, armor proficiency, and combat mount training, so any extended hiatuses could be used to make 'em and the training necessary would make it so you didn't *have* to use your cleric command pool on 'em.
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2010-10-28, 02:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiate of Nature Fun
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