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    I was thinking about Optimised characters and found this. quite obviously, this makes a good example of the power difference between well-built and poorly-built characters

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx9t1...eature=related

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    And the point is?
    I would really like to see a game made by Obryn, Kurald Galain, and Knaight from these forums.

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    Default Re: Optimised vs. Not

    Posting a youtube link in a thread is pretty much the best way to ensure I won't bother watching the video.

    It will not, however, prevent me from posting in the thread if I am bored enough.
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    I love angel summoner and BMX bandit.
    BEEP.

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    Hahah, i didn't watch it but i had a feeling it would be BMX bandit and angel summoner.

    Its not unoptimized character vs optimized character

    its

    Wizard vs Fighter : P

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    Psh. The difference between optimized and unoptimized is the difference between Emma and the dead Guard. Optimized guy survives and can land hits; unoptimized one busts his first saving throw. Conqueror is the BBEG and he's screwing the rules.
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    Ok then, this one but skip ahead to the middle:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Glly5JA5h0
    I was discussing with some friends how these could all be represented as E6 characters (I'm Nate, Joe is horrible at optimizing):
    Joe: "It's a 6th level character versus a 4th level character."
    Jimmie: "No, they're both 6th level, it's a character you built versus a character Nate built!"

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    I don't see why Achilles and Hector would be the same level.

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    Achilles was also a templated beast of a man. With like, DR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Achilles was also a templated beast of a man. With like, DR.
    DR 9001/heel ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Swindle89 View Post
    DR 9001/heel ?????
    Which would mean that only heels get through his DR. I don't think that some guy got up and beat him with his heel...
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    Damage immunity except on critical hits, and an inability to get fortification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PersonMan View Post
    Which would mean that only heels get through his DR. I don't think that some guy got up and beat him with his heel...
    Meh thats the closest i could get, theres no realy mechanic for hit location specific damage reduction like that in D&D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biffoniacus_Furiou View Post
    Bah! Beat me to it!

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    The Mod They Call Me: The point of discussion in this thread is unclear, and it has just become spammy. Thread locked.


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