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2010-11-28, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Can you use Control body to force the subject to make ranged attacks?
Do those ranged attacks receive the INT bonus to damage?
Does a two-weapon fighter under the effect of Control Body receive full INT bonus to damage with both weapons?
The character is planning to use this spell on himself.Last edited by Crow; 2010-11-28 at 08:44 PM.
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2010-11-28, 08:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
To my understanding, the answer to all of these questions is yes.
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2010-11-28, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Here's the spell:
Originally Posted by SRD
For your second, it seems to me that the phrase "its bonus on damage rolls is equal to your intelligence bonus" means your Int bonus subs in for whatever ability bonus it would have normally had. In other words, he won't get Int to damage from firing a crossbow, because that wouldn't get any damage bonus from Dex. But he would get Int to damage with a Composite Bow, because the Int bonus can replace the Str bonus.
(Flavorwise it makes sense as well - his psychokinesis is pulling the bowstring taut, therefore more Int = more damage, up to the maximum bonus supported by the bow itself.)
Your third question is related to the response I gave above - whatever damage bonus he would have gotten from strength (or other relevant ability score) he gets from Int instead. This is true whether he's using one weapon or more than that.Last edited by Psyren; 2010-11-28 at 08:54 PM.
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2010-11-28, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Could you use it on yourself as a psion gish to get int to your attacks? That could be useful.
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2010-11-28, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Looks like a "Yes to all," but you run the risk of losing Concentration if you take a lot of damage, so melee would be difficult.
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2010-11-28, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
I've got a couple of Control Body question of my own, if I may. First, if I target myself with this power, and am paralyzed, can I now move? Second, if I have the Swift Concentration skill trick, and I target myself with this power, do I get my Standard and Move actions (and an additional mental standard from Schism) and then another Standard and Move from my swift action (concentrating on the power)?
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2010-11-28, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
For the first thing, I don't see why not. I dunno about the second.
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2010-11-28, 09:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Here's another question...since you are using the power on yourself, could you elect to power attack?
Using it on another, I would say not, as you only control the physical movements.Avatar by Aedilred
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2010-11-28, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
It's not all roses just yet:
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2010-11-28, 09:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Hence the addition of the Swift Concentration skill trick, which allows you to concentrate as a swift action, instead of a standard.
Edit: Even without the skill trick (which if it works nets you extra actions) you should be able to, as part of the concentration, force yourself to attack. That's how it would work with any other target, isn't it?Last edited by Kalaska'Agathas; 2010-11-28 at 09:39 PM.
No levelled malice
Infects one comma in the course I hold;
But flies an eagle flight, bold, and forth on,
Leaving no track behind.
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2010-11-28, 09:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
I haven't read that specific one, but aren't skill tricks 1/encounter? That would just delay the issue if so.
I would say so, but it doesn't say how many attacks you can get out of it for doing so. Can you full attack or charge?Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2010-11-28, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
You're right, it is once per encounter (unless specifically called out as otherwise, which Swift Concentration is not).
I guess how many attacks and what actions you can take would be up to your DM, as I see nothing in the text of the power that delineates it.No levelled malice
Infects one comma in the course I hold;
But flies an eagle flight, bold, and forth on,
Leaving no track behind.
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2010-11-28, 11:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
For even more fun, you could give your Psicrystal swift concentration and just let it do all the work attacking while you still blow things away with your mind.
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2010-11-28, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
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2010-11-29, 12:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
I think it would be more, have the Psicrystal be the source of the power, targeting yourself. I'm not sure this works, however. But if it does, I've got a great new tactic for my Dark Sun Erudite.
Last edited by Kalaska'Agathas; 2010-11-29 at 12:12 AM.
No levelled malice
Infects one comma in the course I hold;
But flies an eagle flight, bold, and forth on,
Leaving no track behind.
Andrew Eldritch Avatar by Lord Fullbladder, Master of Goblins
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Oh, and you can just call me KA.
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2010-11-29, 12:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Actually, you can just have the Psicrystal maintain the concentration for you. Solicit Psicrystal handles it all for you.
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2010-11-29, 01:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
Fantastic. I knew that I should be doing something with my psicrystals actions, and now I've found something.
No levelled malice
Infects one comma in the course I hold;
But flies an eagle flight, bold, and forth on,
Leaving no track behind.
Andrew Eldritch Avatar by Lord Fullbladder, Master of Goblins
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2010-11-29, 06:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5 Psionic] Control Body Questions
and psionics breaks the action economy even more. Thank you internet, just what we needed.
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2010-11-29, 09:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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