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2010-12-23, 06:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
The feat says
Any transmutation spell you cast that enhances ability scores increases the ability scores by +2 more than it normally does
Does this only apply to enhancement or any modifications to ability scores, such as enlarge person or giant size?
Likewise would a penalty be increased by 2 as well?
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2010-12-23, 06:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
Considering "enhances" isn't a defined term, I think we fall to the rules of English here; That is, enhance = increase/make better = any time you boost a target's stats, including via Enlarge Person, that boost gets better.
As to when you reduce said stats... enhance and reduce are two different things. Even if they weren't, you're still going to take the reduction and add +2 to it; If you used anti-bulls-strength for instance, enhancing the reduction wouldn't give -6 strength, it'd give -2. Regardless, I'd say that no, it doesn't affect reductions.Pokemon friend code : 3067-5701-8746
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2010-12-23, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
Agreed with Quietus. Ability Enhancer makes any Transmutation spell that gives you a bonus to your ability scores give you an extra +2. Note that animalistic power is a crazy spell with Ability Enhancer (one of my favorite Cleric feats; makes being the buffer way more fun).
And no, enhance=/=reduce in English, so Ability Enhancer doesn't touch reductions.
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2010-12-23, 07:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
Raw? Yes, but Raw is broken and contradictory.
RAI? The designers assumed you are stupidly overpowered PHB races (yes LA+0 races are the most powerful in the end) who are conveniently medium size. So they used the size table (but failed) and generate those... almost correct values.
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2010-12-23, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
Devil's Advocate: I could easily see a reading implying that only spells that grant an enhancement bonus are applicable.
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2010-12-23, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
True enough. but I am working with a persisted array of spells so I am cool with it.
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2010-12-23, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
Well, I always thought that feat could have some cool Uses
I want to get a list of good spells to use that feat on, Besides Animalistic power and the typical enhancers like bull's strenght and cat's grace which other ones could be included?
and more importantly... which ones can be persisted?
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2010-12-23, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dragon Compendium Ability Enhancer uses
Incantarix Persisting in this order
Shapechange (Some Lawful Good Outsider/Titan/Pit Fiend/Balor)
Giant Size
Aspect of the Werebear
Greater Visage of the Deity (Good on Demon/Devil, Evil on Titan/Lawful Good Outsider)
Fox's Cunning
Owl's Wisdom
Eagle's Splendor
I can make a DC 63 Spellcraft Check by level 20Last edited by Matamane; 2010-12-23 at 09:37 PM.