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    Default Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    And have them both work...

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    Default Re: Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    No you can't.

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    Default Re: Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    And why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet-Devil View Post
    And why not?
    Slot restrictions. There's only the one boots slot. Same as you can't wear eight different rings and have them all work - there's only the two ring slots. It's that way for game balance reasons, mostly.

    You can, however, keep one set on, and the other set in your pocket, then swap them out when the first runs out of uses for the day.
    Last edited by Jack_Simth; 2010-12-27 at 08:38 PM.
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    Default Re: Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    I understand that, in this case though, it is a single anklet; the item is called an "anklet of translocation", so a pair of them would actually be two separate magic items, one around each ankle.

    The SRD says one "pair" of boots or shoes on the feet, after all.
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    Default Re: Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet-Devil View Post
    I understand that, in this case though, it is a single anklet; the item is called an "anklet of translocation", so a pair of them would actually be two separate magic items, one around each ankle.

    The SRD says one "pair" of boots or shoes on the feet, after all.
    Bizzarely, the rules don't work like that though. One anklet/boot/bracer/whatever takes up the whole slot...you can't wear two Gloves of Storing by RAW and be able to draw from them both, for example, even though a Glove of Storing is also a single item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet-Devil View Post
    I understand that, in this case though, it is a single anklet; the item is called an "anklet of translocation", so a pair of them would actually be two separate magic items, one around each ankle.

    The SRD says one "pair" of boots or shoes on the feet, after all.
    The Anklet of Translocation comes from the Magic Item Compendium - is it reasonable to assume that what the Magic Item Compendium says about such things applies? See page 218:
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Item Compendium page 218
    Some body slots are described as a matched pair of body parts (such as arms, feet, or hands). If an item uses one of these body slots, it takes up both "halves" even if worn on only one of the pair
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    Default Re: Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    Hmm, isn't there a rule about adding different properties to magic items; something like you just add the cost of the second property plus 50% to the cost of the first item?

    If that's right, then you could just give an anklet of translocation the same property again, and call it a proper 'pair' of anklets (that would allow you to teleport 4/day, for just 3,500 gp, right?

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    Yeah, that'd work. It's a workaround, but technically legal, because uses of an item per day aren't a bonus, and so would stack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet-Devil View Post
    Hmm, isn't there a rule about adding different properties to magic items; something like you just add the cost of the second property plus 50% to the cost of the first item?

    If that's right, then you could just give an anklet of translocation the same property again, and call it a proper 'pair' of anklets (that would allow you to teleport 4/day, for just 3,500 gp, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siosilvar View Post
    [bolded for emphasis] What was that you said, again?
    Strictly, the actual wording from the MIC is 'additional abilities'. Likewise, the DMG says 'any additional ability'.
    Last edited by The Glyphstone; 2010-12-27 at 09:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet-Devil View Post
    Hmm, isn't there a rule about adding different properties to magic items; something like you just add the cost of the second property plus 50% to the cost of the first item?

    If that's right, then you could just give an anklet of translocation the same property again, and call it a proper 'pair' of anklets (that would allow you to teleport 4/day, for just 3,500 gp, right?
    Unless you have specific reason for wanting it to be a Swift action, you might look up the Boots of Big Stepping.
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Strictly, the actual wording from the MIC is 'additional abilities'.
    And the DMG/SRD wording is 'new abilities'. I would say that the same thing again is neither new, different, and not an additional ability but more of the same.

    Of course, there's no attunement time, so just buy two and call it good. It's probably even balanced to do it without the 50% cost upgrade to stack: you don't have to switch them out, but you don't have a backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siosilvar View Post

    Of course, there's no attunement time, so just buy two and call it good. It's probably even balanced to do it without the 50% cost upgrade to stack: you don't have to switch them out, but you don't have a backup.
    Brilliant! I'm disappointed that I didn't just think of that. Basically just wear them both, and after using both charges on one, switch to 'wearing' the other one, right?

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    I'm almost postive (though I couldn't quote a source) that switching between items like that (say, choosing which two rings are active of your 7 on your fingers) is some sort of action. I think its a standard action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koury View Post
    I'm almost postive (though I couldn't quote a source) that switching between items like that (say, choosing which two rings are active of your 7 on your fingers) is some sort of action.
    The action is whatever is involved in making sure the item you want to use is one of the allowed items in that slot. For rings, it's the first two. For other slots it's just the first item. So if you had two Anklets on, only the first one worn would be available. To use the other one you would have to take off the first one. That's usually a move action to manipulate an item.

    There aren't any options for "choosing" among many worn items. The choice is made by the order in which you add them, up until you've reached the limit for that slot.

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    If you had Regeneration, you could just wear two rings on each hand and tear off the hand that has the ones you don't need. Not like it won't grow back in a few minutes.
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    that's a terrible idea chopping off a hand takes far more time then just taking a ring off and putting on a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Simth View Post
    Unless you have specific reason for wanting it to be a Swift action, you might look up the Boots of Big Stepping.
    For the melee classes that aren't martial adepts and didn't dip barbarian for pounce or warblade for sudden leap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendus View Post
    For the melee classes that aren't martial adepts and didn't dip barbarian for pounce or warblade for sudden leap?
    That would be a specific reason for wanting it as a Swift action, wouldn't it?
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siosilvar View Post
    And the DMG/SRD wording is 'new abilities'. I would say that the same thing again is neither new, different, and not an additional ability but more of the same.
    Paying 50% extra makes it slotless in any case. So, you could pay 50% more and put it in your pocket, and it would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2xMachina View Post
    Paying 50% extra makes it slotless in any case. So, you could pay 50% more and put it in your pocket, and it would work.
    I know that the 50% increase for adding extra abilities is in the DMG, but where are the rules for making slotless items?

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    Hmm, my mistake, it is 2x

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    You could take the epic feat: Additional Magic Item Space for both of them to confer their abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awa View Post
    that's a terrible idea chopping off a hand takes far more time then just taking a ring off and putting on a new one.
    Except not; one is one action, and the other is two.
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    Wouldn't you have to retrieve the rings from the severed hand anyway? Or does Regeneration work for magic items too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solophoenix View Post
    Wouldn't you have to retrieve the rings from the severed hand anyway? Or does Regeneration work for magic items too?
    That sounds like a plan...

    ... but no, I'm pretty sure that magic items don't grow on trees hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solophoenix View Post
    Wouldn't you have to retrieve the rings from the severed hand anyway? Or does Regeneration work for magic items too?
    The idea is that you chop off the hand with the rings you don't want, and then just pick them up after the battle is done.
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    Default Re: Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    You could just ask your DM for a hand wave. It's not like it's a earth shattering ability. You could also just find other sources of free movement. There are plenty.

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    Default Re: Can you wear two anklets of translocation(MIC)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Person_Man View Post
    You could just ask your DM for a hand wave. It's not like it's a earth shattering ability. You could also just find other sources of free movement. There are plenty.
    True enough, I suppose that's the plan.

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