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    Default A More Pure Caster-ish Cleric?

    I'm in my first DnD campaign, and one of my party members is Dwarven Cleric of Wee Jas. He, like myself is a first-time player, and was somewhat surprised by how much a martial class the cleric is; he regularly does more melee damage than me (a Barbarian) and our friend (a Fighter). My question to you guys, is, is there a class that's like the cleric, but much tilted toward casting.
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    Cloistered Cleric?
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    Cloistered Cleric?
    My thoughts exactly. It can be found here in the SRD.
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    Also Shugenja.
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    Healer.

    Though you might want to keep him away from Divine Metamagic.
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    Cloistered Cleric?
    Yes. Benefits: More skill points, better class skills, Knowledge domain, bardic knowledge, a few extra spells. Drawbacks: Bad BAB, lower hit dice, only light armor proficiency.

    If you want sorcerer-ish casting, you can also try the Favored Soul.

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    It's not easy, considering how well the Cleric spell list synergizes with the combat strategy of "buff up, squash everything". With full casting (and preferably some splatbook access), virtually any high-level Cleric can turn himself into a significant combatant without having a single feat or other build choice devoted to it, simply because the spells exist, ready to be used.

    I play one pretty pure divine caster, it's the halfling in my avatar. I got around the temptation of one day picking Divine Power and telling the melee-ers in the party to kiss my high-charisma butt by just not picking any "Range: Personal" buff spells. Which pretty much means she'll comparatively suck in melee forever (forever meaning "until I get Miracle and could cast Giant Size + Bite of the Werebear at the drop of a hat", anyway).

    TL;DR version: don't play a Cleric, play something with a different spells known list.
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    Default Re: A More Pure Caster-ish Cleric?

    Or just take the Magic and Travel domains and become the party UMD utility specialist while flying above the combat :p

    You can play a normal Cleric as a caster fairly easily, just try to avoid melee combat and concentrate on caster spells. You have a crazy good list of those anyway!
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    Cloistered Cleric is the classic robed scholarly priest, and Archivist (Heroes of Horror) is a divine wizard type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvtyrant View Post
    You can play a normal Cleric as a caster fairly easily, just try to avoid melee combat and concentrate on caster spells.
    This. The big thing that makes a cleric into killer melee is the spell list. Don't take those spells. If you need help avoiding the temptation, use Shugenja or Favored Soul. Cloistered cleric, for example, is a non-combatant, but they can still pop off long-lasting Divine Power, Spikes, etc, etc and fake melee combat very well. Shugenja has the narrow spell list to force a narrow concept.
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