Base Class Challenge Chat Thread II

[Morph Bark]

PLUS, I'd probably wanna do the PrC contest too.

Definitely.

I also would actually love to see sample NPCs in such a thread, since those are great to use from the get-go.

[Hiro Protagonest]

Woops, realized I didn't use the template provided, sorry.

[blackmage]

How does this sound...a fighter who uses clothing as weaponry. I'm thinking each 'magic item slot' is a 'type' of 'weapon' for this class, and wearing certain combinations of clothing allows for certain special attacks. Like, having gauntlets/gloves and a ring allows for a stunning punch attack, having a cloak lets you temporarily blind or confuse someone, etc.

[Hiro Protagonest]

Changed my post to fit the template, I just erased what I had and pasted in the template.

[unosarta]

Complete Classes Only, as MB noted.

PLUS, I'd probably wanna do the PrC contest too.

Oh, okay, that could definitely work better.

That... is going to take a while. A long, long, long while.

[Temotei]

Changed my post to fit the template, I just erased what I had and pasted in the template.

It's not absolutely mandatory that the template be used. As long as it's readable and not too cluttered or something, it should be fine. Continuity is sometimes nice, but if it looks better with colors and different fonts and such, feel free to use them.

[Amechra]

Maneuver section up, and I will post exactly what a Beautiful Dress IS soon.

(Heavenly Mitoste is the replacement name for Heavenly Ribbons. It's an old term for dressmaker)

EDIT: And now we see the Beautiful Dress. I especially like how Adjust the Hem turned out; never get thrown out of a social function for not wearing the fashion again!

[unosarta]

All of the class features are pretty much done, including Shrouds, Weaves, and Effigy benefits. All I need are to remove the dead levels at 9th and 17th level.

[Debihuman]

unasorta -- your base class doesn't allow them to use the satin sword (and shouldn't it be like a longsword), flax axe, cotton hammer, and woven longbow since they aren't proficient with Martial Weapons.

Debby

[unosarta]

unasorta -- your base class doesn't allow them to use the satin sword (and shouldn't it be like a longsword), flax axe, cotton hammer, and woven longbow since they aren't proficient with Martial Weapons.

Debby

Oooooh, I actually meant for the Weaves to not have a proficiency requirement, so that they can be used by anyone. I will add that in. Thanks!

[Temotei]

unasorta -- your base class doesn't allow them to use the satin sword (and shouldn't it be like a longsword), flax axe, cotton hammer, and woven longbow since they aren't proficient with Martial Weapons.

Debby

Well, they'd be allowed to use the weapons, but there would be a -4 penalty involved.

That's just nitpicking, though.

[Gideon Falcon]

I have to ask... Is there such things as Resplendant Masters of Ribbons (or perhaps Belts)?

[Amechra]

There are; I just haven't completely worked out all the fluff yet, so thats why I don't have anything written out yet.

Anyone have opinions on what I have up so far?

[Garryl]

It's a little barebones at the moment. The unique class features (extruding and imbuing ribbons) aren't written up at all at the moment, although the basic idea behind them is easy enough to infer, at least (you make ribbons to fight with and you put spells on them).

For the Beautiful Dress, what does a positive modifier for the Armor Check Penalty mean? The dress isn't based off an existing suit of armor, so it's obviously not supposed to reduce any existing penalties. Also, the miss chance should be granted to attacks targeting the Resplendent Mistress of Ribbons, not to her herself (check the wording of concealment, Blink, and similar effects). I'd also recommend finding a different way of limiting the special abilities transfered to the dress. Dividing your miss chance by 10 is clunky (and it should be 10%, not 10, don't forget about the units). Level/4 rounded up would be clearer, for instance.

Also, just to clarify (since you make mention of the dress being destroyed), would the Beautiful Dress's hp and hardness follow the normal rules for armor? That is, 5 hp/armor bonus and hardness 0, with the usual +10 hp and +2 hardness per point of enhancement bonus.

Although you haven't given us the specifics yet, I like the look of Heavenly Ribbons Style so far. It looks like some interesting battlefield control and disruption, especially with the emphasis on grappling (similar to Setting Sun's partial emphasis on tripping/throwing). It has very few strikes (only 5 out of 23) which helps emphasize its more defensive and nonlethal nature. The names are pretty darn flavorful, too. I'm also happy to see my rushes being put to good use.

I look forward to seeing more. Good luck.

[Amechra]

Thanks. I'll get around to dealing with the necessary changes to Beautiful Dress soon.

[invinible]

Isn't anybody going to create a base class that lets you wear the clothing type monsters safely?

[Morph Bark]

Isn't anybody going to create a base class that lets you wear the clothing type monsters safely?

Your perhaps?

[Gideon Falcon]

Are the contests usually this slow-going?

[Cipher Stars]

Can I join with my Stylist? I should have asked, but I did make it for this, and with this contest in mind. Saved it in forum elsewhere because its easier then open office or something, and I can actually see what it looks like and not a wall of text and coding.

Never done a contest before... So.. hello.


Apparently it can't be posted anywhere previously even if it was made after the contest was nearly over, and despite it not saying anything about that in the four rules given.
*sigh* what ever...

[Temotei]

Can I join with my Stylist? I should have asked, but I did make it for this, and with this contest in mind. Saved it in forum elsewhere because its easier then open office or something, and I can actually see what it looks like and not a wall of text and coding.

Never done a contest before... So.. hello.


Apparently it can't be posted anywhere previously even if it was made after the contest was nearly over, and despite it not saying anything about that in the four rules given.
*sigh* what ever...

If it's been recently posted, I'd be willing to allow it to enter the contest. Does anyone object to that?

[Lord_Gareth]

I, personally, would. You're supposed to make something from scratch - that's part of the creativity of the thing.

[Cipher Stars]

I, personally, would. You're supposed to make something from scratch - that's part of the creativity of the thing.

I made it for this contest, I just made a thread for it because I don't know what the heck I'm doing. All the rules said was no plagiarism, ect ect ect.

Here:

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1. You will be creating an original base class based around clothes. Be it socialites in haute couture, simple peasant's clothing making you badass or changing stuff on the go to give you magical bonuses inherent in your clothes. There are no other restrictions other than that you cannot have posted your entry anywhere else before. Aside from that, anything goes--psionics, martial maneuvers, spellcasting, whatever. Go crazy; new mechanics, new feats, new items, and everything else you can think of are fair game!

2. Submissions are due by June 14th, and should be submitted in the format shown in the next post. Feel free to play around with fonts, images, and the like, but the overall format should be somewhat similar. Mostly, just make it easy on the eyes.

3. There must be a name, complete class, and fluff for both combat and role playing purposes. Incomplete entries will be disqualified--no exceptions.

4. Plagiarism is strictly forbidden.

That was all I had to go on besides the given template.

[Temotei]

I made it for this contest, I just made a thread for it because I don't know what the heck I'm doing. All the rules said was no plagiarism, ect ect ect.

Here:

Spoiler

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1. You will be creating an original base class based around clothes. Be it socialites in haute couture, simple peasant's clothing making you badass or changing stuff on the go to give you magical bonuses inherent in your clothes. There are no other restrictions other than that you cannot have posted your entry anywhere else before. Aside from that, anything goes--psionics, martial maneuvers, spellcasting, whatever. Go crazy; new mechanics, new feats, new items, and everything else you can think of are fair game!

2. Submissions are due by June 14th, and should be submitted in the format shown in the next post. Feel free to play around with fonts, images, and the like, but the overall format should be somewhat similar. Mostly, just make it easy on the eyes.

3. There must be a name, complete class, and fluff for both combat and role playing purposes. Incomplete entries will be disqualified--no exceptions.

4. Plagiarism is strictly forbidden.

That was all I had to go on besides the given template.

Eh. After thinking about it, I'm not so sure. It is in the rules that it can't be posted elsewhere. While you may have made it for the contest, this mistake has sad consequences. I'm sure a lot of us will be happy to critique your work, though. Feel free to participate in the next contest for sure. Sorry if it doesn't work out.

[Gideon Falcon]

Well, if it was posted in its own thread due to a misunderstanding, I think we can make an exception to the rule.

[Cipher Stars]

Eh. After thinking about it, I'm not so sure. It is in the rules that it can't be posted elsewhere. While you may have made it for the contest, this mistake has sad consequences. I'm sure a lot of us will be happy to critique your work, though. Feel free to participate in the next contest for sure. Sorry if it doesn't work out.

Is there a reason theres such a rule in the first place. I see no valid reasoning behind a rule like that.

"Can't have been made prior to the contest" works fine. but "Can't be anywhere else besides our thread", I cannot see.

And when "Can't be anywhere else besides our thread" just doesn't work when its no where on the actual contest thread.

If your that stingy about it, deleting my thread I made for this should serve the same purpose.

[unosarta]

And when "Can't be anywhere else besides our thread" just doesn't work when its no where on the actual contest thread.

Actually, "can't be anywhere else besides our thread" doesn't work either, because, if my memory serves me right, others have posted outside of the actual contest thread, in addition to the contest thread, and asked for critiques there. If it didn't happen in this contest, it happened in another one, and it seems both valid and intelligent, in order to get more critiques.

[Cipher Stars]

Two for it, one hesitant "Maybe" and changed mind to "Um... I don't think so". and one rejection that didn't seem to have any boundaries, and didn't even seem to be related to this rule. "You're supposed to make something from scratch - that's part of the creativity of the thing. " It was scratch of course, and is that saying I'm not creative?

Morph acted pretty much the same as Tem, Just a little more for it then a little more against.


So! Admittedly still hesitant, I ask:

So do I post my class here or in the main thread first :)

[Lord_Gareth]

Actually, "can't be anywhere else besides our thread" doesn't work either, because, if my memory serves me right, others have posted outside of the actual contest thread, in addition to the contest thread, and asked for critiques there. If it didn't happen in this contest, it happened in another one, and it seems both valid and intelligent, in order to get more critiques.

The actual rule is that you can't have posted it elsewhere before you posted it here, because it gives you an unfair head-start on critiques and revisions.

[Cipher Stars]

The actual rule is that you can't have posted it elsewhere before you posted it here, because it gives you an unfair head-start on critiques and revisions.

By that same logic were pretty even. Haven't you been talking it up for ages and to each other here in this thread? Meanwhile I made my class yesterday as the contest seems to be close to ending.

[Hiro Protagonest]

By that same logic were pretty even. Haven't you been talking it up for ages and to each other here in this thread? Meanwhile I made my class yesterday as the contest seems to be close to ending.

I haven't seen a single post of feedback for any of the contest classes.