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    OrcBarbarianGuy

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    Default Need extra swift actions

    I only know of one way to get them(RKV), and using it attenuates what I wanted to use it for.

    What I want to be able to do is score one or two Tiger Claw boosts in one round for big fights when something has to die right now. I thought the belt of battle would do it, but apparently not. My build is Warblade 20, for the full BaB, to qualify for TWF feats earlier than swordsage, so Dual Boost is also out of the question.

    Is there anything else that gives me extra swift actions or extra boosts per turn? Pretty much any source allowed, including "reputable" 3rd party sources.

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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    It's easy enough to homebrew a feat that allows dual boosting. The SS 20 ability is not incredibly powerful for something at level 20, so I don't think that would be a problem.

    Also, perhaps somethign similar to Divine Impetous, such as the Warblade must expend an additional maneuver to be able use two boosts, therefore effectively using up 3 to get the effects of two. This definately makes you think about when you must do it due to the Warblade's limited amount of maneuvers readied.
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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    Its debated whether or not an extra full round action comes with an extra swift action as well. If so, things like a Belt of Battle, or being polymorphed/shapechanged into a Chronotryn or Choaker with Assume Supernatural Ability.

    Otherwise, no, there really isn't any way other than Duel Boost and Divine Impetus.
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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Keld Denar View Post
    Its debated whether or not an extra full round action comes with an extra swift action as well. If so, things like a Belt of Battle, or being polymorphed/shapechanged into a Chronotryn or Choaker with Assume Supernatural Ability.
    Belt of Battle will not grant an extra swift action even under such a ruling. It'll merely replace the one he used to activate the belt in the first place, which won't help his "dual boosts" goal at all.
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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    Another, somewhat roundabout, method is to use leadership to give yourself a Warblade or Crusader companion. Just have that character delay until after you initiative and White Raven Tactics you. It doesn't let you boost twice at once, but it gives you an extra turn. Since you mention Tiger Claw, I assume you want to double up on the Dancing/Raging Mongoose and Girallon Windmill Flesh Rip, this won't achieve exatly that, but it will give you the desired "die right now" effect.
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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    That last one actually works pretty well, since the group hasn't banned leadership yet.

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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Bob View Post
    That last one actually works pretty well, since the group hasn't banned leadership yet.
    Just don't overdo it, make something along the lines of Crusader 5/Healer X focused on healbotting and buffing. Make the Cohort a dedicated facilitator, he should never actually kill anything/achieve anything intended for a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elric VIII View Post
    Just don't overdo it, make something along the lines of Crusader 5/Healer X focused on healbotting and buffing. Make the Cohort a dedicated facilitator, he should never actually kill anything/achieve anything intended for a player.
    Obviously. Optimization doesn't work when it gets itself banned, and who wants their face time taken by an NPC anyway?

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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Bob View Post
    Obviously. Optimization doesn't work when it gets itself banned, and who wants their face time taken by an NPC anyway?
    Sorry if that came out as condescending, but I have recommended a cohort to a friend and he (Druid - summoner) cam out with a blaster Sorcerer. While not optimized that really made him a party by himself with animal companion, Sorcerer companion, his summoned creatures, and his own spellcasting on top of it.

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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    No, it's fine, I said that mainly because I once played in a game with a DMPC that basically demonstrated every reason DMPCs are bad: outclassing the party members, blatantly breaking the rules, always getting the lion's share of "randomly rolled" loot that coincidentally was always best on him, and new characters having to service him(figuratively) to not be shot to death on joining the party.

    So I'd naturally try very hard not to make an NPC that takes center stage.
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    Default Re: Need extra swift actions

    Another way to "nova" with a ToB character, in a "this guy must die now!" situation, is to delay your turn until you have a lower initiative than him, then use Moment of Alacrity at the end of your turn. Voila, you get to go again before he gets a turn to respond.

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