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2011-01-11, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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quick questions concerning an undead character
hey all! one of my players is going to play an undead character (sort of necropolitan) which brought up a few questions (i've never done this before):
1) can undead be reduced to negative HP, or are they destroyed at -1? if they can go to negatives, do they become unconscious? bleed? what?
2) if an undead is killed, can the soul be raised by any means? if so, which? is there an item that enables it?
3) is there a sort of "negative lesser vigor" spell? needed for wands of negative healing.
thanks in advance,
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2011-01-11, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
Undead are destroyed when they reach zero hit points and that's it. Short story, you drop to zero hp, you're dead-dead. I think they certain undead can be raised/ressurected by higher level spells(True Res), but I forgot which ones specific. As for healing, buy a wand of inflict lesser/moderate/serious wounds. That should cover you. Or wand of Harm, if you have the funds.
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2011-01-11, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
A destroyed undead is just "dead". He can be resurrected as any other character, but it will be in his original form, not the undead form. If he wants to become undead again, he can kill himself and have someone turn his corpse into an undead.
The only thing you can't do is resurrecting a character while he is still undead. Like hacking off a zombies hand and using it to ressurect the person, while the zombie still exists.
That is by RAW. Would certainly be fun to meet your old undead body and have to fight him.Last edited by Yora; 2011-01-11 at 12:28 PM.
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2011-01-11, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
I believe Libris Mortis has a revive undead spell, but I can't remember the specifics on it. I don't believe there is any "negative" version of vigor, though.
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2011-01-11, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
Been there, fought that, died horribly.
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2011-01-11, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
The negative energy version of lesser vigor is usually considered to be 1 level of Warlock.
If you can hire a level 1 warlock to follow you around, they can heal you up after every battle. (And if they're a warforged scout you can keep them in your Bag of Holding.)Last edited by HunterOfJello; 2011-01-11 at 12:37 PM.
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2011-01-11, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
By RAW, an undead that reaches 0 hp or lower is destroyed and that body may not be used to create another undead creature.
I believe there might be a feat (I thought I saw reference to it yesterday, I just don't know where) that would allow an undead to survive a single hit that would bring it to 0 or less hp.
There is the revive undead spell, as noted. It is pretty much similar to raise dead, except that it only works on undead and brings them back as undead. Does include the permanent level loss, however. Also noted above is that the normal resurrection line can convert an undead (destroyed or not) back into a living, breathing person (assuming the original creature breathes, of course). Technically, raise dead would work as well, but that has such a severe time limit that it only applies in specific cases.
Um... how? A Warlock's eldritch blast does untyped damage, not negative energy damage. I'd think a Dragon Shaman's fast healing aura (fast healing works fine on undead) would work better, though only to 50% of maximum hp.
Edit: @V Yeah, Dread Necromancer makes much more sense, with charnel touch.Last edited by Duke of URL; 2011-01-11 at 01:25 PM.
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2011-01-11, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
Err, I think he meant Dread Necromancer.
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2011-01-11, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-11, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
The spell description states:
You can raise a creature that has been dead for no longer than one day per caster level.
A creature who has been turned into an undead creature or killed by a death effect can’t be raised by this spell.
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2011-01-11, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: quick questions concerning an undead character
thanks for the response guys!
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