Leadership for an Ooze?

[Oudthrinn]

Title says it all. If Leadership isn't the way to go, is there something else that allows me an Ooze "cohort"? No dips or PrCs.

Specifically, I'm looking to have a Living Spell for some form of healing spell.

[Thomar_of_Uointer]

Title says it all. If Leadership isn't the way to go, is there something else that allows me an Ooze "cohort"? No dips or PrCs.

Specifically, I'm looking to have a Living Spell for some form of healing spell.

Sounds cheezy. I wouldn't allow it as a DM. If you can convince your DM to allow it, then you two should figure it out.

[arguskos]

Title says it all. If Leadership isn't the way to go, is there something else that allows me an Ooze "cohort"? No dips or PrCs.

Specifically, I'm looking to have a Living Spell for some form of healing spell.

You want the Spell Sovereign, a PrC from Dragon Magazine #357 that gets Living Spells as familiars.

[Oudthrinn]

You want the Spell Sovereign, a PrC from Dragon Magazine #357 that gets Living Spells as familiars.

Again, want to stay away from PrCs. Also, yes. I know it's cheezy. Never said it was for a campaign, just wanted to know if there was anything I didn't know of that could allow it by what's already been printed by WoTC (IE no dragon or dungeon magazine).

[arguskos]

Again, want to stay away from PrCs. Also, yes. I know it's cheezy. Never said it was for a campaign, just wanted to know if there was anything I didn't know of that could allow it by what's already been printed by WoTC (IE no dragon or dungeon magazine).

There's no so-called "legitimate" way to do it, so I gave you the only working method.

The only other way I know of to get there is to use Ooze Puppet (SpC) to just hijack one and tool around with him, but it's non-permanent. If you can get Ooze Puppet at-will, that works.

[LibraryOgre]

As a DM, I'd probably say "You want an Ooze cohort? Really? Sure, spend a feat on it."

[Oudthrinn]

There's no so-called "legitimate" way to do it, so I gave you the only working method.

The only other way I know of to get there is to use Ooze Puppet (SpC) to just hijack one and tool around with him, but it's non-permanent. If you can get Ooze Puppet at-will, that works.

I like the Ooze Puppet idea, will look further into that later. Is it possible to summon a living spell?

[Trekkin]

My math on this is probably in error, but a wondrous item of 1/day ooze puppet should be 25,920 gp, no?

[FelixG]

I would note that the section under leadership specifies that your cohort can be a monster of some kind with the GM permission and tells you how to make it work.

[Oudthrinn]

My math on this is probably in error, but a wondrous item of 1/day ooze puppet should be 25,920 gp, no?

Actually, even better a wondrous item could permanently keep an ooze enslaved as long as it's "in use" for 66,000gp (132,000gp if not a slot item). One per day use would actually be 23,760gp, but unless you're not worried about Disjunction then it could be wasted money.

[Oudthrinn]

I would note that the section under leadership specifies that your cohort can be a monster of some kind with the GM permission and tells you how to make it work.

I've heard mixed responses from this, one such response being that a creature can only be a cohort if it has a level adjustment (IE if it's level adjustment section only has a dash, it's not applicable). Nobody who's said that can give me any correlating evidence to their claim, meaning you would indeed be correct.

And all this is, again, aside from the fact that no sane GM should ever let this happen without good justification or a player that s/he feels comfortable in not abusing it.

[Benly]

Slime domain gives you the ability to rebuke/command oozes, so it would let you take control of an ooze permanently if you had a good enough turning level.

[Greenish]

Slime domain gives you the ability to rebuke/command oozes, so it would let you take control of an ooze permanently if you had a good enough turning level.

You can grab the domain granted power with a feat too, but you'll have to work to boost that turning level.

[mootoall]

I might be wrong, since I'm AFB, but doesn't the Rage Walker (ToB) give you something like this?

[AslanCross]

I like the Ooze Puppet idea, will look further into that later. Is it possible to summon a living spell?

The only way I know to summon a Living Spell is to be a Mistling (Eberron: Forge of War), but that requires you to be Fey. The Living Spell ability of Mistlings basically turns the spell-like abilities (that the template also grants) into Living Spells.

It also turns you into an insane, gibbering mockery of your former fey glory.

[Thurbane]

As a DM, I'd probably say "You want an Ooze cohort? Really? Sure, spend a feat on it."

Yeah...maybe a modification of the Wild Cohort feat.

[Callista]

Why do you want an ooze cohort? They have horrendous will saves and move really slowly... every time you travel overland you'll be limited by the ooze's speed. And they're mindless, so it's not like you could justify it as a pet and say, "Hey, it followed me home, can I keep it?"

(Maybe if you told us why you want an ooze as a cohort?...)

[BobVosh]

Title says it all. If Leadership isn't the way to go, is there something else that allows me an Ooze "cohort"? No dips or PrCs.

Specifically, I'm looking to have a Living Spell for some form of healing spell.

Why do you want an ooze cohort? They have horrendous will saves and move really slowly... every time you travel overland you'll be limited by the ooze's speed. And they're mindless, so it's not like you could justify it as a pet and say, "Hey, it followed me home, can I keep it?"

(Maybe if you told us why you want an ooze as a cohort?...)

It is in the OP.

Is there an awaken spell for oozes? Maybe he can go for dominate on an awaken living spell.

[Necroticplague]

Why do you want an ooze cohort? They have horrendous will saves and move really slowly... every time you travel overland you'll be limited by the ooze's speed. And they're mindless, so it's not like you could justify it as a pet and say, "Hey, it followed me home, can I keep it?"

(Maybe if you told us why you want an ooze as a cohort?...)

He already mentioned it, it's so he can have a living spell of a healing spell to help his group.

[Turalisj]

As a DM, I'd probably say "You want an Ooze cohort? Really? Sure, spend a feat on it."

And then the ooze eats you in your sleep.

[Jack_Simth]

Title says it all. If Leadership isn't the way to go, is there something else that allows me an Ooze "cohort"? No dips or PrCs.

Specifically, I'm looking to have a Living Spell for some form of healing spell.

Well, what resources do you have available? What's your Race/Class combo, how many feats do you have available to spend, how much available GP/XP do you have to burn on this, that sort of thing.

[Callista]

Okay, that's it, I need to get some sleep... Think I just made myself look really silly.

(Why not just get a wand of cure light, though?)

[mootoall]

You could find a ring of ooze riding ...

[Akal Saris]

And then the ooze eats you in your sleep.

What a slimy DM!


Hrm, I feel like there should be more ways to get oozes as permanent pets. Thrall of Jubilex can summon a few, but not Living Spells.

What if you had a cohort (or...a pet mouse, or whatever), and then cast Polymorph Any Object on it and turned it into a Living Spell?

[AtlanteanTroll]

If you cant get Ooze pets, why do I remember an Ooze Sadle from somewhere?

[Tael]

If your player ever asks for an ooze cohort, just make sure that he doesn't intend to use the Book of Erotic Fantasy.

[Callista]

If you cant get Ooze pets, why do I remember an Ooze Sadle from somewhere?

It's a ring... I think it's Arms and Equipment Guide, but I'm not sure. Basically a ring that lets you ride safely inside a gelatinous cube.

[mootoall]

If your player ever asks for an ooze cohort, just make sure that he doesn't intend to use the Book of Erotic Fantasy.

Only worthwhile part of that book ...

[Turalisj]

If you cant get Ooze pets, why do I remember an Ooze Sadle from somewhere?

I think that was in the 3.0 supplement Arms and Equipment Guidebook. It's the same one that had swords with mercury in the middle of them for extra impact power.

[mootoall]

You could find a ring of ooze riding ...

This was it.