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    Default D&D 3.5 sourcebook "Sh" ?

    So, someone liked to the Cost Reduction Handbook, which had a list of every item crafting feat, which included one "Improved Item Flight" which was listed as being in "Sh 157"

    I googled it, but all I got was a WOTC guide to every feat ever that included the same abbreviation.

    I can't figure out what book this "Sh" is supposed to be!
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    Default Re: D&D 3.5 sourcebook "Sh" ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_archmagi View Post
    So, someone liked to the Cost Reduction Handbook, which had a list of every item crafting feat, which included one "Improved Item Flight" which was listed as being in "Sh 157"

    I googled it, but all I got was a WOTC guide to every feat ever that included the same abbreviation.

    I can't figure out what book this "Sh" is supposed to be!
    City of Sharn, I believe.
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    Default Re: D&D 3.5 sourcebook "Sh" ?

    Improved Flight Item is indeed in Sharn, the City of Towers.
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    Sharn: City of Towers

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    Default Re: D&D 3.5 sourcebook "Sh" ?

    In my defense, the abbreviation guide on GITP doesn't list SH as one of them.

    SCT, S:CT, or S:CoT: Sharn: City of Towers

    EDIT: On closer inspection, while the feat has the shortened description "Make any item grant the power of flight at no additional cost, or if it already could fly, make it fly better" the FULL text includes "but only if you're in Magical Flying Land."

    Since my adventure won't be in Sharn, the feat is worthless. Tragic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_archmagi View Post
    EDIT: On closer inspection, while the feat has the shortened description "Make any item grant the power of flight at no additional cost, or if it already could fly, make it fly better" the FULL text includes "but only if you're in Magical Flying Land."

    Since my adventure won't be in Sharn, the feat is worthless. Tragic.
    Yeah, I've always felt that the effects of that feat should be part of the manifest zone naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_archmagi View Post
    Since my adventure won't be in Sharn, the feat is worthless. Tragic.
    Ask your DM anyway. A lot of the setting-specific stuff should be baseline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    Ask your DM anyway. A lot of the setting-specific stuff should be baseline.
    The problem with the feat is that it only works on manifest zones linked to Syrania, the Azure Sky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenish View Post
    The problem with the feat is that it only works on manifest zones linked to Syrania, the Azure Sky.
    Unless the DM says otherwise. What does the OP have to lose? If he says no, he's back at square one, where he is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    Unless the DM says otherwise.
    It gives all magic items that grant flight +50% bonus to the flight speed and +2 uses per day, or if they normally have 3 or more daily uses makes them continuous, for no extra cost.

    That should be baseline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenish View Post
    It gives all magic items that grant flight +50% bonus to the flight speed and +2 uses per day, or if they normally have 3 or more daily uses makes them continuous, for no extra cost.

    That should be baseline?
    It should be accessible outside of a very obscure and arbitrary location. I'm a fan of feats being used. Could it be tweaked? Sure.

    And my point stands - if he hears "no" he's no worse off than he is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    It should be accessible outside of a very obscure and arbitrary location. I'm a fan of feats being used. Could it be tweaked? Sure.
    Change the effect, change the limitations, and you essentially have a different feat.
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    And if you have a different feat, you die horrib-

    Hang on, that's drinking bleach, not homebrewing. I always get those confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenish View Post
    Change the effect, change the limitations, and you essentially have a different feat.
    If you allow it anywhere outside Sharn, you have a different feat anyway. You might as well keep going with the tweaks.
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