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    To get into the prestige class vassal of bahamut, you have to kill a juvenile or older evil dragon... by yourself... and this is supposed to be a pestige class for paladins.

    Any one else know of ridiculous special entry requirements for prestige classes ?
    (that are humorous or ridiculous)

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    There is supposed to be one about a hippopotamus, but I haven't dug into it too far.

    Hierophant requires the ability to cast 7th level spells.
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    Only one night? Don't PCs do that on a regular basis anyways?
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    Truenaming PrC's require you to play a Truenamer.

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    Invisible Blade.

    Feat requirements: Far Shot, Point Blank Shot, Weapon focus (daggerlikeweapon)
    Special: the PC must defeat a worthy oponent using his daggers.



    Im not the wisest of mans, but didnt those feats belongs to an archer class?



    That means when you become Invisible blade, that you'll never use those feats again, EVER. Unless you use a bow or ranged weapon, but that means no Invi Blade class features usage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dgnslyr View Post
    Only one night? Don't PCs do that on a regular basis anyways?
    Yes, but do they seriously spend those nights without embarrassing themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki Eremes View Post
    Invisible Blade.

    Feat requirements: Far Shot, Point Blank Shot, Weapon focus (daggerlikeweapon)
    Special: the PC must defeat a worthy oponent using his daggers.



    Im not the wisest of mans, but didnt those feats belongs to an archer class?



    That means when you become Invisible blade, that you'll never use those feats again, EVER. Unless you use a bow or ranged weapon, but that means no Invi Blade class features usage.
    Well, you can still throw your daggers, but yeah. IIRC, originally the Invisible Blade was going to have aspects of the Master Thrower. When that got split out to its own class, they forgot to remove the throwing-centric requirement feats from the Blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGMamaSloth View Post
    To get into the prestige class vassal of bahamut, you have to kill a juvenile or older evil dragon... by yourself... and this is supposed to be a pestige class for paladins.
    Which is funny when viewed in the context of one of the designers mentioning in rules compendium how his paladin smote a dragon for a fair amount of damage and successfully drove it off.

    Interpret how you will.

    There is supposed to be one about a hippopotamus, but I haven't dug into it too far.
    Some initiate feat in sandstorm grants hippotamus turning or something like that.

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    Hah! Most of the Vile Darkness PrCs have bad requirements (sacrificing innocents in front of demons, etc), but I'd say Disciple of Mammon's is probably the worst .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runestar View Post
    Some initiate feat in sandstorm grants hippotamus turning or something like that.
    Blessed by Tem-Et-Nu (deity of rivers) allows you to rebuke hippopotami (less silly than turning them) and they cannot attack you unless magically compelled. The best bit though is the following line
    If you ever lose favour with Tem-Et-Nu, or change your patron deity, you lose all benefits of this feat and take damage as if bitten by a hippopotamous.
    That's right, when a Paladin falls he loses all his powers, when a follower of Tem-Et-Nu falls they lost their powers and get bitten by a hippo.

    Same book has the scorpion heritor whose prerequisite is that you get stung by a monstrous scorpion and survive. Can't remember which one but I seem to recall one PrC requiring the player to get struck by lightning and survive. Both these of course lead to hilarious antics as players wishing to enter them attempt to meet the requirements, grappling with scorpions without any armour on, waving swords around in a lightning storm, hiring druids to strike them with magic or just mooning a temple of the local patron deity of storms/weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverLeaf167 View Post
    Yes, but do they seriously spend those nights without embarrassing themselves?
    That's like the question of whether Belkar is "guilty". He doesn't feel guilt ...

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    Things that require DM intervention are annoying, such as 'spend X time with Y group, or Y person of Z level (especially if that time is in months)' or 'beat x monster solo' or 'spend x time in y location' (again, can be months). They require you to be able to find the group, spend valuable time away from your party (or stopping your party from going out and doing stuff), or to do something risky with no back-up.

    Or the old 'take X feat(s)that will never be used with the features of this PrC (Order of the Bow Initiate, I'm looking at you)'
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    Fist of Zuoken. It requires you to be a Monk. Talk about unbearable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jair Barik View Post
    Blessed by Tem-Et-Nu (deity of rivers) allows you to rebuke hippopotami (less silly than turning them) and they cannot attack you unless magically compelled.

    xDDDDDD... wait.. .........what?




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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGMamaSloth View Post
    Any one else know of ridiculous special entry requirements for prestige classes ?
    (that are humorous or ridiculous)
    Think of the requirements for Dwarven Defender.
    Maybe it's not humorous, but certainly is ridiculous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki Eremes View Post
    xDDDDDD... wait.. .........what?




    That prestige claims to be optimized.
    Actually it is a feat. There is a PrC that you can get into by having the feat (I think) but Blessed by Tem-Et-Nu itself is a feat as opposed to PrC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextercorvia View Post
    Hierophant requires the ability to cast 7th level spells.
    How is this a ridiculous requirement. Seriously though folks. Have none of you ever heard of role playing? Because honestly that's where a lot of these requirements come from. The game isn't about X class getting Y goal. Or at least the intent wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innis Cabal View Post
    How is this a ridiculous requirement. Seriously though folks. Have none of you ever heard of role playing? Because honestly that's where a lot of these requirements come from. The game isn't about X class getting Y goal. Or at least the intent wasn't.
    It comes to you right on the cusp of high level spells and then tries to tempt you into no longer being a fullcaster during the period of a caster's life when high level spells are most crucial, pre-epic.

    In order to get there, one's build-tree is devoted to being a caster, otherwise one couldn't take the PRC fully. But it does nothing to further that.

    So, no, it's still ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jair Barik View Post
    Can't remember which one but I seem to recall one PrC requiring the player to get struck by lightning and survive.
    That would be the Stormlord from some Forgotten Realms book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyckspoon View Post
    Well, you can still throw your daggers, but yeah. IIRC, originally the Invisible Blade was going to have aspects of the Master Thrower. When that got split out to its own class, they forgot to remove the throwing-centric requirement feats from the Blade.
    Master Thrower is one of teh worst PrCs in all practicality. Let's think about this for a moment. You're specialized in...disarming...yourself. Yeah, that was well thought out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innis Cabal View Post
    How is this a ridiculous requirement. Seriously though folks. Have none of you ever heard of role playing? Because honestly that's where a lot of these requirements come from. The game isn't about X class getting Y goal. Or at least the intent wasn't.
    Oh I quite agree. I think PrC where the player needs the DM's assistance (that is through them needing to seek out an organisation of some sort) are much more interesting than some of the other Prestige classes. That doesn't stop some of the entry requirements being a bit strange though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobSutan View Post
    Master Thrower is one of teh worst PrCs in all practicality. Let's think about this for a moment. You're specialized in...disarming...yourself. Yeah, that was well thought out.
    Nice job quoting the master thrower prestice class itself.

    Now i want to make a joke prestice class specialised in throwing its armour at people, that is even worse right?

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    I'd say that Arcane Archer's entry requirement(and, indeed, that of most race-only classes) is much too steep in proportion to what you gain from it.
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    Hunter of the Dead. I don't think the author understood how hard it is for a paladin to get level drained by accident.

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    Hunter of the Dead. I don't think the author understood how hard it is for a paladin to get level drained by accident.
    I can see it now....

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    Paladin: But I want you to take them so I can get into an obscure prestige class!
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    Feats: Improved Initiative, Spell Mastery, Signature Spell, Weapon Focus (ray).
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    You are actually allowed to voluntarily fail saves as I recall (its how most buff spells/healing spells work) but that still doesn't explain why the Paladin would want to get his levels drained in the first place.

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    For what this class does its prereqs are way too much of a tax. Unseen Seer is a much better option for sneak attack based spellcasters and Spellwarp Sniper can do a lot more with Ray spells than what this prestige class has to offer.
    I agree that the requirements are too stiff, but it offers something neither US nor SS can: spontaneous casting. For quite a few spells, too.
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