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Thread: Locathah LA?
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2011-01-29, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Locathah LA?
Why does the Locathah have an LA? I mean, Monstrous Humanoid and a swim speed are kind of offset by the 10' land speed, y'know? I want to play a Locathah fisherman in a game, but I'm not sure what's so great about them. Can someone help me out?
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2011-01-29, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
I... have no clue. Looking at them, they're really nothing special, just an aquatic humanoid with two RHD, a faster swim speed than most other creatures, +3 NA, and bonuses to Dex, Int, and Wis.
I can think of somethings that I could do with them, but not much.Last edited by The-Mage-King; 2011-01-29 at 10:12 PM.
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2011-01-29, 10:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
+2 Dex, +2 Int, +2 Wis. That's why. Total +6 modifier to ability scores.
And in a largely aquatic campaign, the 60 ft. swim speed is quite powerful.
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2011-01-29, 10:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-29, 10:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
Yeah, it's probably because of the Unbalanced Stat Mods.
Originally Posted by Hans
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2011-01-29, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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I didn't say it was reasonable. I said that was why.
Unbalanced stat modifications are automatically worth a +1 level adjustment. See Hobgoblin.
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2011-01-29, 11:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
Plus, it seems that WotC thought that anything with more than one racial Hit Die deserved at least +1 to Level Adjustment.
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2011-01-30, 12:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
I don't think that wizards considered racial hit dice a penalty
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2011-01-30, 12:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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That's why we just ignore RHD in our game for Monster PC's.
Originally Posted by Hans
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2011-01-30, 12:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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This is an injustice that must be rectified. To the Improved Monster Classes cave!
EDIT: and, lo and behold, a semi-playable Locathah.Last edited by Gorgondantess; 2011-01-30 at 01:22 AM.
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2011-01-30, 03:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
Well consider that Locathahs are pretty much unplayable outside of an underwater campaign (lacking the amphibious special quality means they can't breathe air).
So, if it's a given that the game will be highly aquatic, then having a 60-foot swim speed and +3 natural armor, combined with the good stat mods, probably is worth a +1 Level Adjustment (at least in the eyes of the designers). It definitely would be worth it if the RHD were removed, I think.Last edited by KillianHawkeye; 2011-01-30 at 03:46 AM.
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2011-01-30, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
That right there is the biggest problem with WotC design. The way I see it, every racial HD over 1 should already be counted as +1 Level Adjustment(or rather, off-set something worth +1 LA on a 1RHD creature). Also, they hyperinflated the value of Strength.
For ability score balancing purposes, I'd say the following should probably be about the right ratio:
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2011-01-30, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-31, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Locathah LA?
Mental stats give good things. His ratios are close enough. Ahem ratio
Also hobgoblins are not the pinnacle of balanced races. See my BG's Optimized Races Compendium for some perspective.