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    An erinyes devil tires of the endless corrupted conformity of Hell and escapes into the Mortal Coil to seek absolution; she willingly searches for redemption and strives to atone after falling in love with an astral deva.

    However, the weight of her past misdeeds and horrors committed in the name of oppression chains her to a certain wound, the township of Silent Hill.

    Assuming that Silent Hill exists in an enclosed spatial space, making it so she cannot teleport out of it nor summon allies (Hell will not aid her), will she be able to survive Silent Hill?

    The monsters she will encounter are all those present in all of the Silent Hill games; which may actually mean there are no monsters at all.
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    It depends. One of the nice things about Silent Hill is that you can be as lethal as you want to, and then cut it to the confused person waking up somewhere else. Are you going to be running it with multiple layers (abandoned town/the dark town/hell town)?

    One of the caveats could be dying in the abandoned town would be game over. Make sure the creatures and NPCs encountered there mirror the 'sins' and 'guilt' that the erinyes devil are weighted down with. And make them really friggin' strong. Discretion is the better part of valor strong.
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    Yes. The ability of Silent Hill to obscure one's vision is completely undermined by her constant true seeing. ...And her flight negates much of its ability to force one along the rails to play it's game by following the blood-smeared yellow brick road...

    Since tripping is an option to the Erinyes, as opposed to the protagonists of Silent Hill, even if she ended up forced into combat somehow, most of the monsters we've been shown so far are not very good at maintaining their balance at the best of times, much less regain their footing or resist being knocked over by a stiff breeze.

    Pyramid Head is about the only thing that I could possibly classify as a physical threat other than the boss monsters, which one generally has to go poking around to deal with, and we have no way of knowing whether he's got enough brains to be able to see through illusions or if he's stronger than an entity with 20 strength.

    Though, come to think of it, something that isn't repressing its dark side but rather attempting to atone for it doesn't seem to be appropriate for Silent Hill anyway.
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    or send her in Ravenloft and create a "silent hill" domain with a domain lord.
    extraplanar creatures like demons & devils gains more powers in Ravenloft , but if they embrace those new powers they are more tied to the planes and can't escape...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    Yes. The ability of Silent Hill to obscure one's vision is completely undermined by her constant true seeing. ...And her flight negates much of its ability to force one along the rails to play it's game by following the blood-smeared yellow brick road...

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    Pyramid Head is about the only thing that I could possibly classify as a physical threat other than the boss monsters, which one generally has to go poking around to deal with, and we have no way of knowing whether he's got enough brains to be able to see through illusions or if he's stronger than an entity with 20 strength.
    Silent Hill is a malicious town. If it doesn't want her to see fully, she'll be surrounded by a constant Solid Fog which moves with her. Ditto for flight. If there's a way for the town to clip her wings, I'm sure it'll find a way.

    And please, please don't include Pyramid Head. I know that he's now become a sort of staple for the series, but as I recall, he was meant to be a representation of James' problems in SH2 and I really don't know why he continues to pop up in Silent Hill since then.
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    No, no.

    Invisible Fog Cloud. True seeing people can't see worth a damn. Other people CAN.

    (Solid fog is too bad for moving, so...)

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    Silent Hill usually doesn't trap you, it first lures you in with a reason that you don't want to leave. If a person would stumble into Silent Hill by accident, leaving shouldn't be a problem. But you probably won't get there by accident, but because you want something there.
    So the first thing to decide is what the erinyes hopes to find in the town that shee is looking for, a reason she does not want to turn around and get out as fast as possible.

    Since it's a personal hell, all the creatures are made up by the subjects mind, so they would all be strong enough to pose a real threat to her survival. But to makes things really interesting, you'd also need some other people to meet there. Since the theme is redemption from working for hell, a warlock or conjurer could be interesting, or another devil who tempts her to come back to hell. Something like that.
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    You could make it so that at some point, she wakes up and believes her existence as an erinyes to be a crazy and non-sensical nightmare, and that she's only a "normal" human girl (or a cool ranger, paladin, mighty wizard, whatever seemingly appropriate) in the (medieval style?) town of Silent Hill, which is her subconscious wish to become "acceptable" for her love and "get rid" of her "tainted evil heritage". Then, after a while of normal interaction, she suddenly gets pulled back to the "dark side" of Silent Hill, where she re-assumes her erinyes identity once more, preferably after she receives a traumatic experience like the "normal world human version" of her astral deva lover denouncing her for whatever reason (perhaps justified and based on the old sins of the erinyes when she was still a mortal many thousand years ago). The aspect of seeking personal redemption and coming to terms with the truth about yourself like in Silent Hill 2 and Shattered Memory would be the best, I guess.

    Also, why the need for invisible fog cloud? A normal fog cloud works already to stop True Seeing from being effective, and outsider can "deactivate" their true seeing ability if they really wish, don't they?

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    The best twist would probably be if the character is not aware that she's a an erinyes. Most characters start by lying to themselves and not accepting their true past.
    I think it's a valid interpretation that the town isn't exactly evil, but attracts bad people to allow them to redeem themselves.
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    Not sure if you can suppress the True seeing.

    But the invisible Fog Cloud is just for being extra evil. She can't see, but the monsters 10' away can see her just fine.

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    Eh, I'd say "normal" fog is okay, and doesn't need to be somehow special so that it doesn't concern the Silent Hill monsters. Combat should be avoided anyway, because the more time the erinyes spents fighting those beings (or the more of them she kills), the more negative becomes the reveal (whatever it is and how it manifests) for her, like that she is an unredeemable monster herself, and the monsters of the dark world become more and more similar to her, albeit slowly and subtly, to show that she belongs in Silent Hill. However, that fact doesn't need to be obvious to the erynies at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amiel View Post
    An erinyes devil tires of the endless corrupted conformity of Hell and escapes into the Mortal Coil to seek absolution; she willingly searches for redemption and strives to atone after falling in love with an astral deva.
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    Perhaps she does have levels in Paladin indeed.

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    Good characters are not drawn to Silent Hill.
    (Except Harry, but the town wasn't after him.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yora View Post
    So the first thing to decide is what the erinyes hopes to find in the town that shee is looking for, a reason she does not want to turn around and get out as fast as possible.
    Pretty much, yeah. She needs a reason for being there, because she doesn't seem like the kind of person that the town would want to torment, what with it preferring those who are in denial and who are delusional.

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    Since it's a personal hell, all the creatures are made up by the subjects mind, so they would all be strong enough to pose a real threat to her survival.
    Evidence for this? The only time one of the protagonists has actual supernatural power is in the first game as far as I can recall and that's from an easter egg that puts the game on easy mode because nothing can threaten Harry when he has alien sufficiently advanced technology.
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    She could be in Silent Hill, because she was supposed to met her astral deva lover there after escaping from hell...
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    whom she killed in a fit of rage or abandoned to be tortured by the other fiends when she tried to escape or whatever reason, and she is guilt-ridden and now lives in denial, fabricates a new persona as a sweet and innocent girl to forget what she has done and similar stuff... similar to the plot of
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    you guessed it, Silent Hill 2, one of the iconic parts of the franchise that started the whole interpretation of the town as personal hell and yet possibility to seek redemption

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