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Thread: Spells that give you a good BAB?
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2011-02-07, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spells that give you a good BAB?
There is Divine Power and Valiant Fury. Are there any others? Also is there any spells that just give a good BAB and no additional bonuses? Lastly are there any arcane spells for this?
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2011-02-07, 10:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
Limited wish to mimic Divine Power? Other than that, not sure. At higher levels Divine Favor isn't a bad buff to have running to eat up the BAB difference, though sadly it doesn't do anything for BAB itself.
I don't remember if Tenser's Transformation changes BAB offhand.Last edited by Whammydill; 2011-02-07 at 10:42 AM.
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2011-02-07, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
There is (Tenser's) Transformation, though its a 6th lvl Sorc/Wiz spell and doesn't allow you to cast spells while its ongoing.
To get Divine Power as an arcane caster, you could also take the feat from Complete Divine, name escapes me at the moment, that grants you spells from a domain, though you need the appropriate wisdom score to cast it. Divine Power is on the War domain list.
Those are the only ones that come to mind.
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2011-02-07, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
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2011-02-07, 01:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
Valiant Fury doesn't increase your BAB.
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2011-02-07, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-07, 01:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
Additionally, the master may cast a spell with a target of "You" on his familiar (as a touch range spell) instead of on himself.
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2011-02-07, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
Hmm, polymorph + tenser's transformation, suddenly polymorphing the familiar doesn't suffer from the poor BAB drawback. Only the low HP drawback. Takes preparation time though.
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2011-02-07, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-07, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
How is it that people are able to reliably throw their familiars into melee without it getting killed? I also hear about familiars being used to deliver touch spells a lot as their biggest benefit... but these things go down in one attack, lose the caster some experience points, and prevent him from bonding another for a year.
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2011-02-07, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-02-07, 02:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
Dex
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2011-02-07, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spells that give you a good BAB?
Well, gishes have higher HP totals and better numbers for familiars in general as well as getting naturally crunchier familiars sooner and there's a number of buffs for familiars to make them survive melee better.
Regular ones rely on either bigger distractions in the form of Beatsticks or...hide checks, I believe.
edit: Polymorphing... I think it's relying on a lack of ranged/caster support on the part of the enemy and using reach and meatshields to prevent effective reprisals on either wizard or familiar.