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    Any monsters in 3.5 that have immunity to sonic/stunning? My google-fu has failed me.
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    Slaads do.

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    Destran (sp. most likely): A large, blind dinosaur-like thing that shoots sonic out of its mouth to attack. Will post more when I have the book

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    Default Re: Sonic Immunity [3.5]

    Constructs, Elementals, Plants, and Undead are immune to stunning.

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    Slaads are immune to sonic, and stunning immunity comes cheap. If you want both on one creature I'll need to check (or just suggest half-elemental slaad)

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    Play a deaf character - we can probably assume that someone who can't hear will also be unaffected by something as explicitly sound-based as sonic damage. On stuns, I think going undead is your best bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worlok View Post
    Play a deaf character - we can probably assume that someone who can't hear will also be unaffected by something as explicitly sound-based as sonic damage. On stuns, I think going undead is your best bet.
    Actually there are plenty of ways to do sonic damage that affect deaf creatures. Seeing as how sonic damage is actually specialized in breaking objects we're talking sonic vibrations not just loud noises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worlok View Post
    Play a deaf character - we can probably assume that someone who can't hear will also be unaffected by something as explicitly sound-based as sonic damage. On stuns, I think going undead is your best bet.
    Sonic damage is more about devastating vibrations and such. Thus why many crystalline creatures have a vulnerability to it. Deafness won't protect you unless the attack in question explicitly calls it out.

    Deafness will likely protect you from many non-damaging sonic abilities, as well as all language dependent effects, but it is not blanket immunity to sonic damage or the sonic descriptor.
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    Destran (sp. most likely): A large, blind dinosaur-like thing that shoots sonic out of its mouth to attack. Will post more when I have the book
    The Destrachan which, despite conventional DnD logic, is in no way immune to sonic at all. It gets a +4 bonus to saves vs sonic attacks. I must say I was quite confused by this when I read the entry in depth.
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    No, I do not believe there are any monsters in 3.5 that are immune to incredibly fast, blue, anthropomorphic hedgehogs. Although, if there are, I'm sure Dr. Robotnik would be glad to know.


    More seriously, why do you need something that's immune to sonic damage?

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    More seriously, why do you need something that's immune to sonic damage?
    Maybe a caster took energy substitution, and it's giving some problem?
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    Valkyries from Tome of Battle have immunity to cold, electricity, fear, and sonic. They're fun.

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    Maybe a caster took energy substitution, and it's giving some problem?
    And that's why you don't allow 3.0 versions of feats that have been updated (note how in 3.5 it lists four energy types with the deliberate exclusion of sonic). Even then the real question is why sonic AND stunning? I know of sonic spells that do both (sound burst) but they tend not to be too much of a problem.
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    And that's why you don't allow 3.0 versions of feats that have been updated (note how in 3.5 it lists four energy types with the deliberate exclusion of sonic).
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    there was some PRC iirc that made every spell cast deal an extra little of sonic damage and stun for a round. Storm something I think

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    Could also be he wants to build a character that little to no creatures are resistant or even immune to energy damage. Sonic damage and force damage are the two that creatures are least likely to resistant to.

    As for Sonic Immunity a Pathfinder Bard gets Well Versed at 2nd level which grants a +4 to among others sonic effects in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydos View Post
    Actually there are plenty of ways to do sonic damage that affect deaf creatures. Seeing as how sonic damage is actually specialized in breaking objects we're talking sonic vibrations not just loud noises.
    But if sonic damage was all about vibrations, wouldn't explosives also be dealing sonic (shockwave) damage?

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    Well, if deafness isn't that much of a hit (which, admittedly, was a rather smart-alecky idea, firmly rooted in the "perhaps his DM doesn't know that?" school of thought), try incorporeality. And deafness. That way, neither shockwaves nor particularly hideous noises can affect you much. Be a ghost, that nets you stun immunity as well.

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    Knell Beetles are immune to sonic. Not only are they immune, but they convert sonic damage into healing, and they have a sonic area-effect they can use to heal other knell beetles. Add some druids with Child of Winter or Vermin Trainer, and they'd make excellent mounts for some "shock" troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydos View Post
    And that's why you don't allow 3.0 versions of feats that have been updated (note how in 3.5 it lists four energy types with the deliberate exclusion of sonic). Even then the real question is why sonic AND stunning? I know of sonic spells that do both (sound burst) but they tend not to be too much of a problem.
    It's 3.0? I'm pretty sure I read in 3.5 that Energy substitution includes Sonic as well.

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    there was some PRC iirc that made every spell cast deal an extra little of sonic damage and stun for a round. Storm something I think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi View Post
    No, I do not believe there are any monsters in 3.5 that are immune to incredibly fast, blue, anthropomorphic hedgehogs. Although, if there are, I'm sure Dr. Robotnik would be glad to know.


    More seriously, why do you need something that's immune to sonic damage?
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    I forget what they're called, but I think that petitioners of Kord have either Sonic Immunity or sky-high sonic resistance.

    Since they're basically Einharjr, I guess they train for it by yelling a lot.
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    half dragon template from the srd with the appropriate ancestor dragon can give you sonic immunity.

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    In the adaptation sidebar of Elemental Savant, you can modify it so you can focus on Sonic (Since Energy Substitution: Sonic is a feat), and thus gain Immunity to it. Not a spectacular PrC, but could do some serious damage
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    Golem are immune to most magic due to their Immunity to Magic. Only certain kinds of magic will work on them, and some energy types will even heal certain types of golems. Since they have construct traits they are also immune to stunning.

    Edit: I just found a creature immune to sonic. The Howling Dragon native to Pandemonium. The Howling Dragon can be found in Draconomicon.
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