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Thread: Monster PC questions
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2011-02-08, 10:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Monster PC questions
Does casting granted by race stack with casting granted by class?
For example, a Nymph casts as a 7th level Sorcerer. Would a Nymph with 1 Sorcerer level cast as an 8th level Sorcerer, or would she have 7th level casting and extra 1st level casting?Last edited by Qwertystop; 2011-02-08 at 10:40 AM.
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2011-02-08, 10:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Racial Casting and Casting Classes?
A spellcasting class is an associated class for a creature that already has the ability to cast spells as a character of the class in question, since the monster’s levels in the spellcasting class stack with its innate spellcasting ability.
So, a nymph druid 1 would cast as an 8th level druid, while a nymph sorcerer 1 would cast as a 7th level druid and 1st level sorcerer.
[Edit]: Assuming 3.5, though I'm pretty sure PF works the same way in this regard.Last edited by Greenish; 2011-02-08 at 10:39 AM.
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2011-02-08, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Racial Casting and Casting Classes?
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Re: Racial Casting and Casting Classes?
Last edited by Greenish; 2011-02-08 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Mistake.
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2011-02-08, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monster PC questions
You count both the RHD and the LA towards your ECL. (Love the acronyms there). This means that a level 1 Nymph druid is equivalent to a level 14 character.
Most level adjustments, especially those for caster races err on the side of caution and, as a result, tend to be seriously underpowered.
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2011-02-08, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monster PC questions
If you want to have LA+HD races actually playable see here before they
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Re: Monster PC questions
The link doesn't seem to be working for me.
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2011-02-08, 08:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Racial Casting and Casting Classes?
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2011-02-08, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Racial Casting and Casting Classes?
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2011-02-08, 09:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monster PC questions
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...81#post8578981 is the link he posted.
Alternately, you could check out this homebrew project, which strives to make a tier 2-3ish PC out of the myriad monsters in official material. Licenses are taken to make monsters viable and interesting as PCs, which means reducing huge stat bonuses and getting creative with abilities. It's not all perfect or great, but we're making strides.
So you could wrestle with Nymph LA & RHD, or just take seven levels in this nymph class. It's not one of our better monsters (we've been changing our methodology since mid-2010) but it's more playable.
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2011-02-09, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Racial Casting and Casting Classes?
Improving monsters:
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2011-02-09, 04:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Racial Casting and Casting Classes?
I stand corrected - I have never noticed that clause before.
Well, that will certainly make this list more interesting...I'm off to make some NPCs!My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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