Chargin with a lance, whats included

[j4bberw0ck]

When A character charges with a lance, it states the lance does double damage. What exactly is included in this. I am assuming that :

+1 lance wielded by a character on a mount with 18 STR becomes

2d8(damage die) + 8 (STR mod) + 2 (enhancement bonus).

is this correct?

[dextercorvia]

Only if you are wielding it in two hands and mounted.

[Greenish]

Everything!

That is to say, the base weapon damage and all non-variable (+XdY) bonuses to it.

[Frosty]

Only on horseback is your damage doubled. Two hands not assumed nor required (can do it one-handed on a horse and have a shield in the other hand for example) but then your STR bonus to damage goes down.

[Lateral]

Also, it's not 2d8+8 for a wielder with 18 strength. It's 2*(1d8+8).You don't double the number of variable dice, you just double the result of the die.

[Frosty]

Also, it's not 2d8+8 for a wielder with 18 strength. It's 2*(1d8+8).You don't double the number of variable dice, you just double the result of the die.

Wrong. Even if we interpret it your way, it's 2*(1d8+4) for two-handing a lance with 16 str.

[dextercorvia]

Only on horseback is your damage doubled. Two hands not assumed nor required (can do it one-handed on a horse and have a shield in the other hand for example) but then your STR bonus to damage goes down.

He was getting a +4 from strength on a 16 Str character, so I answered that his math was correct if he was wielding it two handed.

Also, it's not 2d8+8 for a wielder with 18 strength. It's 2*(1d8+8).You don't double the number of variable dice, you just double the result of the die.

Actually, you are supposed to roll twice.

Edit: Linky

[Greenish]

Also, it's not 2d8+8 for a wielder with 18 strength. It's 2*(1d8+8).You don't double the number of variable dice, you just double the result of the die.

Not so:

Multiplying Damage
Sometimes you multiply damage by some factor, such as on a critical hit. Roll the damage (with all modifiers) multiple times and total the results. Note: When you multiply damage more than once, each multiplier works off the original, unmultiplied damage.

Even if it worked like you said, it'd be 2*(1d8+4), not 2*(1d8+8) for Str 18.

[Edit]: Gah, swordsages! Dualwielding lances!

[Lateral]

...You are correct.

[dextercorvia]

[Edit]: Gah, swordsages! Dualwielding lances!

Barbarians with Oversized TWF, can Dualwield lances and actually attack with both of them on a charge thanks to Pounce.

[j4bberw0ck]

When A character charges with a lance, it states the lance does double damage. What exactly is included in this. I am assuming that :

+1 lance wielded by a character with 16 STR becomes

2d8(damage die) + 8 (STR mod) + 2 (enhancement bonus).

is this correct?

I apologize for my fluke i meant to list the STR as 18 (+4 bonus for one handed)