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    Default Unlimited Out-Of-Combat Healing at level 1?

    Does any exist? Because I feel like I'm going to need it. For myself only works, but really nice would be the rest of the party as well.

    All I can think of at the moment is Dread Necro meets Tomb-Tainted soul. Anything that won't get me purged by fire?

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    A Crusader with Martial Spirit and a weapon that deals 1 damage can get the job done. It takes a while, but you get there eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private-Prinny View Post
    A Crusader with Martial Spirit and a weapon that deals 1 damage can get the job done. It takes a while, but you get there eventually.
    Well that depends on if your DM allows you to hit things that don't have a CR like walls or mice. Which most don't so...

    As far as I know there is no way to get unlimited healing at level one.

    You can't take a reserve feat at that level, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomhero00 View Post
    Well that depends on if your DM allows you to hit things that don't have a CR like walls or mice. Which most don't so...

    As far as I know there is no way to get unlimited healing at level one.

    You can't take a reserve feat at that level, right?
    Or you could stab your buddies, dealing 1 damage and healing 2.

    And what do you mean there's no way? We've already covered two of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randomhero00 View Post
    Well that depends on if your DM allows you to hit things that don't have a CR like walls or mice. Which most don't so...

    As far as I know there is no way to get unlimited healing at level one.

    You can't take a reserve feat at that level, right?
    No need for mice. Each time you hit something with Martial Spirit, you can heal 2 points of damage. So if your weapon deals 1 point of damage, you can stab someone to full HP.

    Not that it's going to fly with most DMs.



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    Dead Necromancer with Tomb Tainted Soul has unlimited self-healing

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    Of course Dragon Shaman 1 with the Vigor aura can heal unlimited amounts of HP, but only up to half-normal HP. I think there's a Reserve Feat in Complete Mage that does the same for a divine caster with CLW prepared.
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    Touch of Healing from Complete Champion actually is not available until 2nd spell level casting, and it only works up to half health as well so long as you have a Conjuration (Healing) spell not cast of 2nd spell level or higher.
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    You can sleep. I don't think there's a rule that limits how much or long you can sleep.

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    Default Re: Unlimited Out-Of-Combat Healing at level 1?

    If your DM rules that touch spells are 'fixed range' and therefore eligible for Persist (debatable, ask your DM), there's DMM (Persist) on Lesser Vigor. With the right domains or some flaws you can get that at level 1.
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    Depending on exactly how your DM rules it, any Tome of Battle character can pick up Vital Recovery at level 1. As long as you're considered to be refreshing your maneuvers that you use outside of combat, you can heal all day long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleKing View Post
    Touch of Healing from Complete Champion actually is not available until 2nd spell level casting, and it only works up to half health as well so long as you have a Conjuration (Healing) spell not cast of 2nd spell level or higher.
    funny thing, that. cleric qualifies for versatile spellcaster (and this is probably the least cheesy unintended usage of that reading possible, too, since you want a spell which you can actually cast spontaneously), so if human or flaws, you can manage that.

    if you work carefully with a 1 damage weapon, it can heal up to floor(max/2) + 3 * highest level spell - 1: 6 hp over less than half, which is enough to heal anything with 11 or fewer hp to full... which is basically everyone except a d12 or d10 with a good-sized con bonus.
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    Clerics with healing devotion, Cha 14, and extra turning can, while not unlimited, easily have enough to give everyone in a 4 person party fast healing 1 for 10 rounds 2/day. At level 1, that can do wonders for conserving your resources. (it's also great for action economy purposes. Due to the wording of the feat, you don't just pop fast healing on them, you transfer the entire benefit of the feat. meaning that once transfered, the new recipient uses their actions to activate the fast healing when they need it or it auto pops when they drop below 0)

    Binder 5 with Improved Binding and Tenebrous can turn this into unlimited healing.

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    Hire a lvl 3 cleric?
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    1 rank in heal skill.

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    1 rank in heal skill.
    does nothing.

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    have everyone in the party use the Feral template

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    have everyone in the party use the Feral template
    Still ECL 2... and just a bad idea in general unless everyone wants to play a vicious beast.
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    Here's a completely ridiculous one for you that likely WOULD get purged with fire (and quite likely in a literal manner).

    Troll-Blooded feat, from Dragon Magazine.
    Must be taken at level 1, requires the Toughness feat.

    Benefit... Regeneration 1 (fire and acid weakness).

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    With poison healer you can effectively have unlimited healing as long you carry a keg of beer with you.

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    It probably won't fly, but if you're doing a Pathfinder/3.5 crossover, you could see if your GM will let you take Cure Minor Wounds as a 0 level spell instead of stabilize. Since 0 level spells can be cast infinitely if memorized in Pathfinder, you can then heal 1 hp every six seconds. This would be as a cleric/oracle obviously (or possibly Druid?).

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    With poison healer you can effectively have unlimited healing as long you carry a keg of beer with you.
    No, no, that actually requires actions. The way to go with Poison Healer is to get a bunch of tiny vipers and stuff them down your pants. Granted, getting Steadfast Determination and a +9 fort save at level 1 in addition to Poison Healer might be a little hard to pull off, but if you get enough snakes you can end up with worthwhile unlimited in-combat healing too.
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    Why do you think you'll need it? How much damage are you really expecting to take that you can't heal at night? At level 1 its a lot safer to just avoid taking damage; AC is your friend this early.

    Also consider a Warforged and just repairing yourself in a lot of downtime.

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    Lesser Mechanatrix and Lightning Gauntlets/DFA or any other at will Electricity.

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    Martial Spirit can be done with unarmed strikes for nonlethal damage. Every time you're healed for HP damage you're healed an equal amount of nonlethal damage, so as long as you're not doing more than 2 damage per punch they'll eventually heal to full. "Why do you make me do this to you? I'm only doing it because I love you!"

    Maybe if the party pools their gold they can get a teddy bear that gives a Cure Minor Wounds every time you hug it (1,000 gp value). "Hug teddy, you'll feel better!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MammonAzrael View Post
    Also consider a Warforged and just repairing yourself in a lot of downtime.
    Warforged Shaper ftw. 3d8 self-heal at 3rd level.

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    With poison healer you can effectively have unlimited healing as long you carry a keg of beer with you.
    No, no, that actually requires actions. The way to go with Poison Healer is to get a bunch of tiny vipers and stuff them down your pants. Granted, getting Steadfast Determination and a +9 fort save at level 1 in addition to Poison Healer might be a little hard to pull off, but if you get enough snakes you can end up with worthwhile unlimited in-combat healing too.
    Hey I would rather get healed by a refreshing bottle of Moradin Ale than have some vipers down below.

    But that is just a personal thing.

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    You can sleep. I don't think there's a rule that limits how much or long you can sleep.
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