Llama Llama Duck 4 - 200 LLAMAS! Buy bye Bi-centennial!

[Eternal Drifter]

The Stealth Llama wakes up on top of a chimney... upside down, legs in the air, his back blocking the passage of smoke.

What a headache...

You're telling me... but the job was completed...

You mean death?

No... I'll reveal it at another time...

Can you get us down, at least? I appear to have lost control...

Let me see... no... not in control either.

...

A little help?

Zanshin.

[Gray Mage]

As requested (by my quick perusal):

Mkhaiwati
otakuryoga
PirateMonk
Ramsus *
Szilard
banjo
Murska
calar
Zanshin *
Gray Mage
Eternal Drifter
Qwaz *
billtodamax

Those marked with a * I find particularly suspicious. Ramsus started day 2 pointing at Irbis (a confirmed duck) but switched. Zanshin has pointed at Happy multiple times (as if he's been protecting her all along). Qwaz's comment to Happy yesterday pinged my radar - not sure why, but it made my hackles rise.

Day 1 we lynched FC, day 2 we lynched Irbis, day 3 Orzel had the most votes but vortex shenanigans killed DS7 in his place. Of those who voted for HT yesterday, only Thufir, Zar Peter, Sanity, Tasroth, Duneyrr, and cd4 have been on successful wagons.

Edit: Oh, and banjo is dead, so I guess he's not our culprit.

If those were you particulary suspicious, why did you point at me?

Now, if we are to belive that the howard responsible for that is a duck (which we seem to do since we're looking for him), almost all of the suspects pointing at the same person is useless unless we have a lucky guess. Half of the players in mangoosta list should point at one player, and the other half on another.

I'll guard my point until our "seer", since he's not confirmed yet, says if he has a target or not. Any word, Mkhaiwati?

[mangosta71]

If those were you particulary suspicious, why did you point at me?

Because you didn't ping on my radar, and WW makes me paranoid. And I'm way more scared of you than any of them to begin with.

[otakuryoga]

I believe we have the ducks running scared
bawling like babies
qq
qq...now we need to force another sound out of them
zzzzzzzz...the sleep of the dead

Ultimate
Victory

shall be ours
Unite! fellow llamas
March always onward toward the destruction of the ducks

finally, my point....Ramsus

[Gray Mage]

Because you didn't ping on my radar, and WW makes me paranoid. And I'm way more scared of you than any of them to begin with.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

Now, where is our little seer?

[Rogue Nine]

I am Howard. But I am most assuredly a Llama. I will protect whomever you say I should for now on if I live through today and tonight.

I *tried* to protect Mkhaiwati yesterday:

Mkhaiwati for a certain reason besides trying to kill him.

Edit: FINE

But was immediately rebuked:

hmmm... obviously I wasn't clear.

Please vote Happyturtle for he is a scanned assassin duck.

Justice League announcement!

Since there is no way of if Mkhaiwati is a Seer or a Fool without him scrying the same person multiple times, I decided to protect Happyturtle. There are several ways Mkhaiwati could have been wrong: being a Fool instead of a Seer, or Happy being disguised. I don't know if she is a Duck or not. Why?

Because I *told* her I was Howard the Llama. And I'm not dead yet.

There are two ways you all can prove I am who I say I am. Kill me, or tell me who to protect. I would much rather it be the latter, but whatever.

One more point of fact that I'm not a duck. I am not a good bluffer, even with the anonymity of the Internet. Check EVERY other WW game I've been in. When I was a wolf and was pointed at, I pretty much folded instantly.

[Saposhiente]

Huh? I got assassin'd?
*checks posts*
The only mention of me I can find other than Zar's post is in Ramsus's edited post. Could I be PMed the quote?

[Ramsus]

Well I'm ok with pointing at someone else who isn't me if you have someone better.

[Gray Mage]

I am Howard. But I am most assuredly a Llama. I will protect whomever you say I should for now on if I live through today and tonight.

I *tried* to protect Mkhaiwati yesterday:



But was immediately rebuked:



Since there is no way of if Mkhaiwati is a Seer or a Fool without him scrying the same person multiple times, I decided to protect Happyturtle. There are several ways Mkhaiwati could have been wrong: being a Fool instead of a Seer, or Happy being disguised. I don't know if she is a Duck or not. Why?

Because I *told* her I was Howard the Llama. And I'm not dead yet.

There are two ways you all can prove I am who I say I am. Kill me, or tell me who to protect. I would much rather it be the latter, but whatever.

One more point of fact that I'm not a duck. I am not a good bluffer, even with the anonymity of the Internet. Check EVERY other WW game I've been in. When I was a wolf and was pointed at, I pretty much folded instantly.

Hmm, interesting. Pray tell me, why did you protect happy? If she was not a duck it wouldn't have been a huge loss, since she claimed beast, unless she hit a PR, so at best you prevented her from dying and hitting someone good and us from learning if Mk was good/fool/there is still a bad disguiser, and at worst you defended a duck. You are right about you not being a good bluffer, since I'm not buying that you'd risk defending a duck unless you were one. It simply doesn't seem like you. Zanshin

Edit: Telling you who to protect would only prove that you're a howard, which I don't doubt (unless you're a beast), not your duckiness or lack of it.

[Mkhaiwati]

I am Howard. But I am most assuredly a Llama. I will protect whomever you say I should for now on if I live through today and tonight.

I *tried* to protect Mkhaiwati yesterday:



But was immediately rebuked:



Since there is no way of if Mkhaiwati is a Seer or a Fool without him scrying the same person multiple times, I decided to protect Happyturtle. There are several ways Mkhaiwati could have been wrong: being a Fool instead of a Seer, or Happy being disguised. I don't know if she is a Duck or not. Why?

Because I *told* her I was Howard the Llama. And I'm not dead yet.

There are two ways you all can prove I am who I say I am. Kill me, or tell me who to protect. I would much rather it be the latter, but whatever.

One more point of fact that I'm not a duck. I am not a good bluffer, even with the anonymity of the Internet. Check EVERY other WW game I've been in. When I was a wolf and was pointed at, I pretty much folded instantly.

The seer found another Llama last night. So Happyturtle still remains the only duck out there we know of.

I feel confident about the seer. The seer scanned FC before he was lynched, and knew my role and team. (of course, the paranoid part of me wonders about being played by the other side, but it is the only game in town and I have to play the cards dealt by the hoof) The seer is definitely not a Fool. (possibly a fool)

and that list and comments made by Mangosta... there is one small correction. Ramsus pointed at Irbis, but Irbis was an assassin Llama, not a duck.

[Rogue Nine]

The seer found another Llama last night. So Happyturtle still remains the only duck out there we know of.

I feel confident about the seer. The seer scanned FC before he was lynched, and knew my role and team. (of course, the paranoid part of me wonders about being played by the other side, but it is the only game in town and I have to play the cards dealt by the hoof) The seer is definitely not a Fool. (possibly a fool)

and that list and comments made by Mangosta... there is one small correction. Ramsus pointed at Irbis, but Irbis was an assassin Llama, not a duck.

That's all I needed to hear: some proof that the seer is a seer, not a fool. I can't follow the seer's lead to lynch though, since I can't turn off my power, but I can try to keep wolf bandwagons from occuring on someone from Team Llama.

Hmm, interesting. Pray tell me, why did you protect happy? If she was not a duck it wouldn't have been a huge loss, since she claimed beast, unless she hit a PR, so at best you prevented her from dying and hitting someone good and us from learning if Mk was good/fool/there is still a bad disguiser, and at worst you defended a duck. You are right about you not being a good bluffer, since I'm not buying that you'd risk defending a duck unless you were one. It simply doesn't seem like you. Zanshin

Edit: Telling you who to protect would only prove that you're a howard, which I don't doubt (unless you're a beast), not your duckiness or lack of it.

For your first point, why I protected happyturtle. The day before she bluffed and I believed it (I even posted, in white, that I was doing so, see the post of mine Orzel quoted). Then when Mkhaiwati basically rebuked me, I got mad. Mad enough to mess up the lynch. Probably a big mistake, but if she WAS a beast, then it would have been bad to lynch her since EVERYONE has a power role, don't they? Best case she hit a Duck, if any even voted for her.

I knew from the PM I received that Howard was a hard, if not impossible role to hide, so I decided to show myself early.

As for a point in your edit, why would I be defending myself if I were a beast? ESPECIALLY a Duck Beast?

There are two ways to prove I'm a Llama: Lynch or Scry. You guys are obviously SO intent on the first one that nothing I say will persuade you to even TRY the other. Whatever. Since my vote doesn't protect myself, I'll vote Zanshin to get this over with. Unless you all decide to see reason and lynch a KNOWN Duck (obviously happyturtle, I definitely won't stand in the way this time), and scry me tonight.

[happyturtle]

If the seer has been verified, then I was disguised, and I think I know who did it. *shakes hoof at Llaxi*

You measn there's a sensible reason to vote for Happyturtle? Well, that almost makes me not want to vote for her! Methinks she may have been disguised, but lets test MkHaiwati's claim.

EDIT! No assassin here!

Banjo1985 was attacked and killed. Banjo1985 was a Disguiser on team Llama.

[Ramsus]

Ok well I'll switch off Zanshin and hopefully others will switch off of both him and myself (you know other people aside from Zanshin...*rolls eyes*). I'll go with mangosta71 for finger pointing under bad premises and for either deliberately getting his facts wrong or for not bothering to fact check before doing so.

[Gray Mage]

For your first point, why I protected happyturtle. The day before she bluffed and I believed it (I even posted, in white, that I was doing so, see the post of mine Orzel quoted). Then when Mkhaiwati basically rebuked me, I got mad. Mad enough to mess up the lynch. Probably a big mistake, but if she WAS a beast, then it would have been bad to lynch her since EVERYONE has a power role, don't they? Best case she hit a Duck, if any even voted for her.

Since EVERYONE has a power role, then no one is vital, since it's likely there's another one. If we were afraid to lynch a PR then we'd never lynch anyone at all.

I knew from the PM I received that Howard was a hard, if not impossible role to hide, so I decided to show myself early.

As for a point in your edit, why would I be defending myself if I were a beast? ESPECIALLY a Duck Beast?

The beast is just the paranoid in me speaking, so don't take it too seriously.

There are two ways to prove I'm a Llama: Lynch or Scry. You guys are obviously SO intent on the first one that nothing I say will persuade you to even TRY the other. Whatever. Since my vote doesn't protect myself, I'll vote Zanshin to get this over with. Unless you all decide to see reason and lynch a KNOWN Duck (obviously happyturtle, I definitely won't stand in the way this time), and scry me tonight.

Except that scries are not too trustfull, since it's very much possible that there is a duck disguiser around (remember you saying that HT could have been disguised? Well, after this you are going to be disguised, since it's obvious you'd be the scry target), expecially if you are a duck. And it's funny how now you think HT is a duck when it's still possible she was disguised and is asking us to lynch her when it's very likely she's being vorteXed.

[happyturtle]

Mangosta for no particular reason. Also I miss the soothing feel of Llaxi tires over my aching back.

[Orzel]

Well someone is being vortexed because I'm not today unlike the days before.

[Eldritch Knight]

happyturtle

I have no idea why.

[mangosta71]

Ah, yes. Someone posting in a hurry from work would never make an honest mistake. Even with Irbis being a llama, the logic was that you switched off him after the bandwagon was formed, which could have been a Howard changing his point so that the lynch would go forward, and we were looking for the Howard that protected HT, scrambling the seer test. I never said that I suspected the people on the list of being ducks, though the sheer number means that there almost certainly are some on it.

[Ramsus]

Hey, it's not my fault you pointing at me without fact checking. Why should I have to endure false aspersions? As is I'm in line for being lynched solely because of your error. You can make any excuse you want but the fault rests solely on your shoulders. For the record I'm not a Howard.

[mangosta71]

I'm not pointing at you, though. The bandwagon is securely on someone else. The error has been pointed out and admitted. I don't see why you're getting so defensive. Would you feel better if I edited the post containing the list?

[Eternal Drifter]

At least they finally gave control up...

But why to the weakling?

That we may never know...

I want DEATH! Let me deliver it!

No... I'd say we'd best go for Happyturtle.

Now going around the farmhouse, the Stealth Llama sees a comotion.

Best stay out of it for now...

[Lex-Kat]

Mangosta for no particular reason. Also I miss the soothing feel of Llaxi tires over my aching back.

*Gives Mistress Turtle a soothing hot rocks massage*

[UncleWolf]

*looks at for the first time in a few days* Oh, um....I'm going to go with Eternal Drifter, mostly because I forgot about the game and it's obviously his fault.

[Szilard]

So I'll be away on vacation for the next week, until the 29th. I don't know if I'll have internet access there, or even the time. So yeah... don't autolynch me.
As for regular lynching... eh.

In case y'all didn't see.

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Lex Kat for stealing all my hot rocks that I was going to use to cook my supper. Now my grass is cold.

[Lex-Kat]

Sorry, Mister Llama. I'll bring them back, nice and hot, when I'm done.

And just a reminder: I'm dead.

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Sorry, Mister Llama. I'll bring them back, nice and hot, when I'm done.

And just a reminder: I'm dead.

Wait..what? When did this happen? Who did it? I'll make a Yoshi eat them!!

otakuryoga did you know about this?

[Alarra]

*sniffs at Zanshin's feet, batting at his shoelaces, wondering when she became a cat*

[Mkhaiwati]

not sure if I pointed, yet.

just checked, I haven't.

Since I am being vortexed, and since Happyturtle is still there, I will point at Eternal Drifter. 'Outburst' scares me.

[Thufir]

I'm still not doing great at keeping track of this game...
I'll go with Zar Peter.

And I will be away from tomorrow until next Friday. Don't autolynch me please.