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Thread: 1e Monks and Hierarchies
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2011-03-31, 01:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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1e Monks and Hierarchies
How many monk hierarchies are there in the world? Can a monk move between them, especially at the "challenge" levels?
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2011-03-31, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 1e Monks and Hierarchies
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Depends on who's running the world.
In AD&D (at least by late 2nd edition) Greyhawk, Monks (and assassins for that matter) specifically belonged to the Scarlet Brotherhood and there was no other organizations to move to, not that the fanatic jerks would want to anyway.
In the end, I'd say it's really up to the judgement of the DM. If your moving between two relatively compatible, or believably close, organizations, then sure why not? As long as it doesn't become a habit. If you're trying to flit between ridiculously disparate groups, then maybe your character deserves a smackdown.It doesn't matter what game you're playing as long as you're having fun.
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2011-03-31, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 1e Monks and Hierarchies
Maybe there are as many as lawful alignments? So, lawful good, lawful neutral, and lawful evil?
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2011-03-31, 03:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 1e Monks and Hierarchies
Could also be devoted to certain deities. Like in the OOTS continuum, it would make sense to have Monks working alongside the Paladins.
Or devoted to an ideal: like the Order of the Perfected Soul or somesuch.It doesn't matter what game you're playing as long as you're having fun.
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2011-04-01, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 1e Monks and Hierarchies
Actually, in the fluff it's mentioned that there are three of one particular level (16th, I think?)... one evil, one neutral, one good. And then one of the highest level.
I believe that there are 3 (or 9?) of each alignment for the level previous to that. There are even special rules about advancement. A good-aligned Monk could not advance until one of the higher level ones died. An evil aligned Monk had to kill a higher level Monk and take his place (or die trying). A neutral Monk had to defeat a higher level Monk causing him to lose XP and swapping levels with him.
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2011-04-01, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 1e Monks and Hierarchies
Hmmn. Not sure what it says in Oriental Adventures, but in the Player's Handbook there are three monks of eighth level (blue, red and green) and one monk of each level above that. What Mark seems to be asking is whether this limitation is "per campaign world" or based on some other delineation. Presumably, it is not a limitation on the multiverse! A more permissive interpretation might be one per martial arts "school"; the Scarlet Brotherhood springs to mind as an organisation that supposedly contains a lot of monks.
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2011-04-01, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 1e Monks and Hierarchies
Originally Posted by Player's Handbook pg. 32
There are many schools in the world. Some of these are run by the same Master, or his students taught in the same system. Even within the same martial art system, such as Kuoshu (Kung Fu), there can be many styles (say for example, Celestial Mountain, Red River, or Black Tiger could all be different styles of the game-world martial art system known as The Way). Each style will be headed by one Master (or Grand Master, or Supreme Master) who teaches primarily at one school or possibly several, with lesser Masters he taught heading sister schools under the same style.
And yes, sometimes there may be two or more contenders for the title of being the heir to a particular style.