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    Okay, I really need a 33 or 43 sided die, for reasons that most likely shouldn't be explained. Does anyone know of one of these? And yes it has to be a d33 or 43, no exceptions.
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    Google "Random Number Generator." You will not find any physical polyhedral dice that meet your specifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBobJoe View Post
    Okay, I really need a 33 or 43 sided die, for reasons that most likely shouldn't be explained. Does anyone know of one of these? And yes it has to be a d33 or 43, no exceptions.
    Roll a d100, ignore any result that is not from 1-33 or 43.

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    I'm also looking to see if someone will make this kind of dice. Also, I meant it when I said no exceptions. i.e. rolling on a larger die and rerolling if it's higher.

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    I recommend whittling a piece of wood into an odd twisted lumpy shape, painting it, and writing numbers on it between 1 and 43. If it's a terrible enough shape, nobody will bother to make sure that all the numbers are there.

    Unless you actually want a die that will generate a uniform 1:43 distribution.
    Then an RNG is your best bet.

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    You aren't, by chance, trying to use that weapon from Sandstorm?

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    Okay, I KNOW that in the OP you implied you didn't want to explain...but I need to know.

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    My DM will let me used the typoed version of the scorpion-tail whip in Sandstorm, and I can make it lethal damage.

    edit:Longcat nailed it.
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    The dice roller at Invisible Castle can roll any dice you want, I think.

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    Yes, and one of the forums we use a lot can roll any dice too, but he wants me to get an actual d20.

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    The only way I can think of to do a d33/43 would be to use the "crystal" type of dice (where the tops and bottoms are pointed and the sides are large flat panels around the middle making it kind of cylindrical). I used to have a whole set of them, although they were only normal die types. Still, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do odd numbers with them... just a 43-sided die is gong to end up being rather large.

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    You could maybe get a 43-sided log-like thing similar to a d3, but there's no way you can make a regular polyhedron with 33 or 43 faces.

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    Get a sphere, divide it into 33/43 equal sections?

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    Here is a picture of a d33.

    Here you can buy one. Note that they're pretty expensive.
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    You can get a d34 from Chessex. That's as close as I could find.
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    Here is a picture of a d33.

    Here you can buy one. Note that they're pretty expensive.
    You have got to be kidding. Why do these things even exist ?
    Are people actually buying d33s ?

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    You have got to be kidding. Why do these things even exist ?
    Are people actually buying d33s ?
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    Here you can buy one. Note that they're pretty expensive.
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    That's rendered, yes. The first one looks to be real.
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    That's rendered, yes. The first one looks to be real.
    I agree the die in the first link, which I didn't quote, looks real, the others look really fake. The question remains though, why? Surely they can take a photograph of their own product.
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    My guess is that the rendering shows the edges better. The angles are shallow enough that you can't see them at all in the other pic, so it's hard to see how they got a distribution for 33 numbers.

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    I agree the die in the first link, which I didn't quote, looks real, the others look really fake. The question remains though, why? Surely they can take a photograph of their own product.
    I believe that that company is one which makes dice to order, rather than just selling from a stock. Also, from the sidebar, it appears that that die's only been available for a few days. So it's possible that they haven't actually made any yet.

    If you were concerned about their authenticity, you could ask Kevin Cook about it in his thread here.
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    Check out the white rendered picture...the numbers don't even match up with the faces!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyndmyr View Post
    Check out the white rendered picture...the numbers don't even match up with the faces!
    That's because there is an odd number of faces/die results. When resting on a face a non face will be at the uppermost extent of the die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens_cry View Post
    I agree the die in the first link, which I didn't quote, looks real, the others look really fake. The question remains though, why? Surely they can take a photograph of their own product.
    Its somebody selling a model on Shapeways, so there is no "product" until the purchaser requests a 3-d printed instance of the model (which can be made of a variety of materials, at purchaser's request).

    Do you also complain when there's no picture of the book for sale on Lulu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyndmyr View Post
    Check out the white rendered picture...the numbers don't even match up with the faces!
    Consider a d4. The number doesn't have to match up with a face on top. It has to match up to a face on the bottom, where the die stops rolling.

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    That's because there is an odd number of faces/die results. When resting on a face a non face will be at the uppermost extent of the die.
    Not quite. It's because there's not a face on top when the die stops rolling. The same thing happens on a d4, which has an even number of faces.

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    You have got to be kidding. Why do these things even exist ?
    Are people actually buying d33s ?
    I remember the first time I saw a d34. I said to the salesclerk, "That's ridiculous. Nobody has any use for a d34. They just made that to see if anybody is stupid enough to buy a die for which there is no possible use."

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    I believe that that company is one which makes dice to order, rather than just selling from a stock. Also, from the sidebar, it appears that that die's only been available for a few days. So it's possible that they haven't actually made any yet.
    Yeah, that's how Shapeways works- though it's not all dice there (I'm working on some tokens there, myself). The creator could also lack a means to photograph a print, somehow, in this world, too, but if it's up for sale, it can be printed in one of their materials, as the model file has already been put through tests on being 2-manifold and thick enough to print.

    Do note that there's a $25 minimum charge, if that's a concern. White Strong and Flexible is probably the best combination of price and detail, and it supposedly paints very well. You could also try bugging the artist with the "Send Message" link to enable printing in Frosted Detail and Frosted Ultra Detail, which will be kinda clear but has better tolerance for fine details.

    Also, you could just buy a d66/86 that's numbered 1-33/1-43 twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seb Wiers View Post
    Its somebody selling a model on Shapeways, so there is no "product" until the purchaser requests a 3-d printed instance of the model (which can be made of a variety of materials, at purchaser's request).

    Do you also complain when there's no picture of the book for sale on Lulu?
    Well, that's rather different as not a lot about a book can be told about its cover as it is the content that is important. While looking at a picture of the die can tell you something of how well it is manufactured. Are the numbers clear, does it look to be well made? I am not saying it is dishonest, I just find it rather odd.
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