LGBTAitp - Part Fifteen

[Danne]

Come to the LGBTA thread: we'll grope you? Sounds unfun for the Asexual crowd.

Dunno, maybe it would help if you offered them some Lagerbeta.

Edit: Er, not to grope them, that is. I meant as an alternative. XD

[Mina Kobold]

Oh no! The snuggles and the glomps have fuzed!

And we're already working on adding cuddles to the mix too!

I thought asexual people aren't neccessarily averse to body contact? From what I hear, some of the are quite cuddly.

Some of us are, some of us are not. Same with most people, I think.

But there is a difference between cuddling and groping, so even cuddly people may have an aversion to groping.

Just like I have an aversion to people stealing my hat.

[Coidzor]

Yeah, but like you said... it's only some of us.

Considering that it is what it is, it's all quite immaterial.

[KenderWizard]

Some of us are, some of us are not. Same with most people, I think.

But there is a difference between cuddling and groping, so even cuddly people may have an aversion to groping.

Just like I have an aversion to people stealing my hat.

Yeah, I'm not asexual, and I love cuddling, but groping is only for, y'know, grope-appropriate (gropropriate) situations with grope-approved (gropproved) individuals. Actually, there are definitely people who are not even cuddlepproved, so really, it's all about context and relationship to the person.

Tomorrow I'm going on a March for Marriage!

[Gardener]

Considering that it is what it is, it's all quite immaterial.

But Mackie argues that immaterial properties cannot exist, and thereby lays out his moral error theory.

It's his Argument from Queerness.

[Coidzor]

But Mackie argues that immaterial properties cannot exist, and thereby lays out his moral error theory.

Well, that's pretty patently false, given our capability to have this exchange.

[DeadManSleeping]

Well, that's pretty patently false, given our capability to have this exchange.

Any proofs that this discussion exist rely on proofs that you exist.

Nihilism is technically irrefutable. Practically, however, it is just stupid.

[Coidzor]

Any proofs that this discussion exist rely on proofs that you exist.

I could very easily not exist and still have the text that is coming from "me" appear here.

In any event, the immaterial nature of this conversation has very little to do with morality. Given the nature of the virtual "world."

ION: Phonetically, LGBT seems more like "liège bitte," than "lagerbeta," from what I understand of most english accents in the western hemisphere.

[Serpentine]

I was actually imagining it as "lah-GER-BAH-ter", but spelling it out just happened to end up lagerbeta...

[Hawkflight]

Any proofs that this discussion exist rely on proofs that you exist.

Nihilism is technically irrefutable. Practically, however, it is just stupid.

Okay, I'm confused. Isn't our ability to hold a conversation proof that we exist?

[LaZodiac]

People carry conversations with cats, babies, and plants all the time.

[unosarta]

In addition, you could use that logic to then state that any creature that does not hold conversation with us could be said to not exist, as ridiculous as that statement is.

[Coidzor]

I was actually imagining it as "lah-GER-BAH-ter", but spelling it out just happened to end up lagerbeta...

So what's the impetus for the vowel choices then? Your Australian accent or individual idiosyncrasies?

I can tell making an "a" sound like an "er" is something born of Britland in one form or another, at least.

Wait. Wouldn't that have spelled out lager batter based upon the phonetics you're using?

People carry conversations with cats, babies, and plants all the time.

As far as I can tell, there needs to be some level of interaction to have a conversation.

Generally those are just monologues. Or soliloquies where someone is just really chewing the scenery.

[Rawhide]

In addition, you could use that logic to then state that any creature that does not hold conversation with us could be said to not exist, as ridiculous as that statement is.

That would be a logical fallacy.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negativ...ative_premises

Premise: All of these people have had a conversation with me.
Premise: All people who have had a conversation with me exist.
Conclusion: Therefore, all people who have not had a conversation with me don't exist.


Or, more directly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent

If a person has had a conversation with me, then they exist.
They have not have a conversation with me.
Therefore, they don't exist.

[Serpentine]

So what's the impetus for the vowel choices then? Your Australian accent or individual idiosyncrasies?

I can tell making an "a" sound like an "er" is something born of Britland in one form or another, at least.

Wait. Wouldn't that have spelled out lager batter based upon the phonetics you're using?

Uh... Because all the vowels I used can make all those sounds?
a = "ah" (car), "ay" (Kate), "air" (Sarah), "a-" (at), and so on.

Lager = LAH-ger, lah-GER, LAY-ger, lay-GER, and so on.

[DeadManSleeping]

Okay, I'm confused. Isn't our ability to hold a conversation proof that we exist?

But then you must prove that the conversation exists.

[Trobby]

But then you must prove that the conversation exists.

I consider the fact that they are right here as proof that they exist.

Imaginary conversations count as existing, because they still exist as an imaginary construct. ;p

Also, my girlfriend posted here! Um...YAY! ^-^

[Mystic Muse]

I'm imagining this entire conversation never happened.

[Serpentine]

Prove that what you are reading on the screen is what is actually there.
That's the problem with this sorta philosophy

[DeadManSleeping]

You also have to prove that imaginary constructs exist.

Like I said, it's a valid perspective, just a useless one.

[Coidzor]

Prove that what you are reading on the screen is what is actually there.
That's the problem with this sorta philosophy

Of course, proving that you're not wasting your own time by saying this kind of thing is another problem with this kind of philosophy.

Though what was originally said being immaterial and all does tie in to that to a certain extent, what with it not being a physical object one can touch.

Uh... Because all the vowels I used can make all those sounds?
a = "ah" (car), "ay" (Kate), "air" (Sarah), "a-" (at), and so on.

Lager = LAH-ger, lah-GER, LAY-ger, lay-GER, and so on.

So you're telling me to chalk this up to your Australian then, yes?

Like I said, it's a valid perspective, just a useless one.

Prove that validity exists.

[KenderWizard]

I am back, having Marched for Marriage! There were some great speakers and a great crowd. People had cards that said

equal

I pinned one to my shirt with an Amnesty badge so I could wave my (borrowed ) rainbow flag. There were some fierce showers today so I wanted to bring my rainbow umbrella, but then I didn't get a chance to drop by my flat between visiting IKEA and going on the March. I was wearing my rainbow hoodie, though! It only drizzled a little while we were marching, in fact, it cleared up so much I invited some of my friends and co-marchers back to my flat to have a rooftop picnic with fruit and cupcakes (I had the most amazing chocolate fudge gluten-free cupcake with tiny marshmallows on top!) and it was actually kind of sunny!

It was the third annual March. The crowd was pretty cheerful and people beeped their cars in support, and the Viking Spash Tour boat-truck-thing people gave out Viking helmets, which was weird, but cool!

[Asta Kask]

So did you find someone to marry?

[Mono Vertigo]

Alright, so the previous conversation never happened, since I can't prove it did, and in my subjective point of view, I can't prove any of you exist either, therefore you can't give me a proof it did.
Suits me.


@Kenderwizard: sounds like it was fun!

[KenderWizard]

So did you find someone to marry?

That would be a much more entertaining March for Marriage! I was going to go dressed as a bride but in a purple gown and veil instead of white, but I wasn't sure it was _that_ kind of march, since I hadn't made it to the previous ones. Then I could have found someone to marry. There was a girl with a pink veil there, I could have married her! Not sure my partner would approve, though. "We're apart for THREE DAYS and you MARRY someone?".

As always, there's an appropriate xkcd.

[KingOfLaughter]

All I got from this argument thingy was that my imaginary friends are real! I must discover the cloaking technology they use....

[Lyesmith]

Imaginary freinds, you say?
Philosophy, you say?

Also, it's clearly "luh-buh-guh-tuh" or lubugata.

[cycoris]

Also, it's clearly "luh-buh-guh-tuh" or lubugata.

Nuh-uh, it's obviously Lig Bit.

[Lyesmith]

...Derp. Just realised I had my G and B the wrong way round, rendering it l'gubutuh.

[Qaera]

I always just say elle-gee-bee-tee

<.<

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