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    This is kind of a D&D question, so I apologize if this is in the wrong section of the forum.

    When Tsukiko claimed to created a wight, here (7th panel), I was confused by what spell she used, if any, to create it. Anybody care to shine some light on this? Also please include the book it's in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornelius Grim View Post
    This is kind of a D&D question, so I apologize if this is in the wrong section of the forum.

    When Tsukiko claimed to created a wight, here (7th panel), I was confused by what spell she used, if any, to create it. Anybody care to shine some light on this? Also please include the book it's in.
    She used the "plot zombification" feat, which lets you zombify any corpse without using a spellslot. Your avatar is awesome!
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    You can easily interpret the level draining rules so that Enervation or Energy Drain can create wights. Either that or the Giant houseruled that wights can be made from Create Undead. Just like how Darth Vaarsuvius used Create Greater Undead to create a floating dragon head with the victim's soul inside the undead creature. I don't think that's in any book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant Sheep View Post
    She used the "plot zombification" feat, which lets you zombify any corpse without using a spellslot. Your avatar is awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    You can easily interpret the level draining rules so that Enervation or Energy Drain can create wights. Either that or the Giant houseruled that wights can be made from Create Undead. Just like how Darth Vaarsuvius used Create Greater Undead to create a floating dragon head with the victim's soul inside the undead creature. I don't think that's in any book.
    Okay, that makes sense. Negative levels are fun!
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    I always thought it was a Create Greater Undead spell.

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    I always thought it was a Create Greater Undead spell.
    Create Greater Undead can only make shadows, wraiths, spectres, and devourers.

    The comic takes a lot of liberties with the rules of necromancy, which is fine, seeing as it makes the necromancer baddies' powers much more interesting than the RAW would allow.

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    Per the SRD, any effect that inflicts negative levels creates a wight if the target is killed, unless the effect specifies another type of undead.

    A character with negative levels at least equal to her current level, or drained below 1st level, is instantly slain. Depending on the creature that killed her, she may rise the next night as a monster of that kind. If not, she rises as a wight.
    It's an easy rule to overlook. I think the glossary of special abilities in the back of the DMG is the only place that mentions it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant Sheep View Post
    She used the "plot zombification" feat, which lets you zombify any corpse without using a spellslot. Your avatar is awesome!
    It need not even be a spell per se. A magical ritual, taking several minutes if not hours and possibly several participants may do whatever the GM or plot decides it can.
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    Negative levels/energy draining can do anything in this comic, I mean it'd be too much effort to look this stuff up first, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagusBloodsoak View Post
    Negative levels/energy draining can do anything in this comic, I mean it'd be too much effort to look this stuff up first, right?
    Look, the only thing that can do anything in a comic setting is radiation and this only applies during the Golden or Silver Age.

    What, do you think Rich has infinite time to look up every rule so his comic is completely, 100% D&D accurate or that he'd rather tell an interesting story based more on his own ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Epic View Post
    tell an interesting story based more on his own ideas?
    This one.

    She made a wight with Tsukiko's Amazing Wight-Making Spell, which happens to have no verbal component. Who cares? I sure don't.

    If you are looking for moment-to-moment rules accuracy from this comic, you probably should stop reading. You are guaranteed to be continually frustrated and disappointed, because I don't care about that at all.

    Asked, answered, thread locked before people try to guess what the stats of that spell are.
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