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    So, been playing some Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. DMing a game, first ever. Ran through a pre-con adventure, had an adventure of my own, running another prebuilt. Also playing in a game, and having way more fun with that. I rolled up a protagonist (Professional Antagonist, basically I bully people for money) and get a 5 for my intelligence... This is abysmal. But, I played it up. Basically, he is very dumb. But he thinks he is quite clever. He basically comes up with half assed schemes that have a slight chance of profit, when straight up robbery is much more profitable.

    We are part of a traveling merchant group, so whenever we stop by the city we are only there for the night. This is ideal for mugging people, as they can report me to the gaurd, but I'll have moved on by the time anyone get's around to anything. In one city, I robbed a halfling point blank, and then assaulted him. We left the city, only to find a roadblock. We went back. My character had the idea to join the town guard, so he could rob people under the cover of the law, before moving on the next day. Well, he went to the guardhouse and was requested to join. I failed the (int based) perception roll to see the wanted poster, and was subsequently arrested. Joy.

    He also frequently lies to authority in ways that incriminate others, and will end up wasting a lot of everyones time.

    Best moment of the game so far, which I think was also a very subtle dm warning, was when I went out to find someone to pick a fight with and rob. I met... someone trying to rob me, or kill me and rob me. I killed him and took his stuff. I think the dm was saying "Knock it off or you will try to rob the wrong person... and get robbed yourself."

    Off topic, this game is degenerating quickly. We have a psychotic norsemen who has an 18 foot long tongue due to being gifted by Slaanesh, one party member who wants to overthrow the empire by making the people rebel and rule them as a dictator, a small time thug(me), a not quite as psychotic norsemen, and a Priestess who turns a blind eye to her coworkers misdeeds, and spends a lot of time reading or praying and basically staying out of our way.

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    Oh man. This sounds awesome. You should write one of those campaign journals, or keep us updated on this. In the theme of dump stat horror storeis, I once played a D&D Archivist with, like 6 STR. You know those heavy things wizards carry around? Like hats? And Spell-books? Other than my equipment, I could carry next to nothing. And I couldn't touch those spells that required attacks, touch or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Loss View Post
    Oh man. This sounds awesome. You should write one of those campaign journals, or keep us updated on this. In the theme of dump stat horror storeis, I once played a D&D Archivist with, like 6 STR. You know those heavy things wizards carry around? Like hats? And Spell-books? Other than my equipment, I could carry next to nothing. And I couldn't touch those spells that required attacks, touch or not.
    I had a scout with a 5 STR and like and 8 CHA or CON once.
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    Dwarf fighter. 4 CHA. He didn't talk much

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    Troll Street Sammy, 1 Logic, 1 Charisma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seerow View Post
    Troll Street Sammy, 1 Logic, 1 Charisma.

    Oooh yeah

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    Heh, in our group Wisdom is generally deficient. Only one of our characters had a positive wisdom modifier (mine), two have 8 Wisdom, and one has 5 Wisdom (incidentally, she also has the highest Intelligence).

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    I'm curious as to how a high int low wis character works. Is it like they're book smart but not street smart or something?
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    Low Wis high Int? Know a lot, but you squander your talents. It happens all the time in real life. ALL THE TIME.

    I've had a small sized caster with 1 strength and 7-8 constitution before. He's based on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Objection View Post
    I'm curious as to how a high int low wis character works. Is it like they're book smart but not street smart or something?
    the 3.5 phb describes such a character as being a absent-minded professor type

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    I had an orc necromantic priestess with a 3 charisma in exchange for a 19 wisdom plus an unlucky monstrous trait or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Objection View Post
    I'm curious as to how a high int low wis character works. Is it like they're book smart but not street smart or something?
    I tend to play it as not knowing the difference of what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildPyre View Post
    I tend to play it as not knowing the difference of what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do.
    "Intelligence is knowing [the exact stats for an Old Red Dragon], Wisdom is knowing not to provoke it"

    Don't remember where I saw it, sadly...

    But yeah. Intelligence: coming up with crazy plans. Wisdom: knowing when (and IF) to put said crazy plans into action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Objection View Post
    I'm curious as to how a high int low wis character works. Is it like they're book smart but not street smart or something?
    Mad scientist. The sort that makes a zombie virus and releases it before he comes up with an antidote.

    Basically, you do very dumb things in very smart ways because you don't think about the end result of whatever you're about to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kieza View Post
    Basically, you do very dumb things in very smart ways because you don't think about the end result of whatever you're about to do.
    See also Aperture Science. Or the fictional company that goes "Hey, we've invented a nifty portable teleportation device! Let's use it to test our almost-as-amazing but ridiculously-badly-marketed-and-tested* other products. Y'know, instead of thinking of actual practical application." The most hilarious and awesome demonstration of this on a large scale.



    *let's say you make the bounciest gel ever that also happens to "dislike the human skeleton". How would you market it as? If you answered "diet pudding", you win a cookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Objection View Post
    I'm curious as to how a high int low wis character works. Is it like they're book smart but not street smart or something?
    That's your smart guy who develops something and does not realize that it might have very deadly applications.
    Or they know lots of theoreticals, but not much practical knowledge.
    Or your absent minded professor type.
    Or someone smart, but easily lead.
    Extreme cases could be idiot savants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Objection View Post
    I'm curious as to how a high int low wis character works. Is it like they're book smart but not street smart or something?
    A fair number of academics are like this - without being absent minded or crazy. They have a keen understanding of subject material, but might not understand the implication of it in the real world.

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    I once had a Wisdom of 3, a Charisma of 3, a Strength of 6, a Constitution of 14, and an Intelligence of 24. It was fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Lord View Post
    I once had a Wisdom of 3, a Charisma of 3, a Strength of 6, a Constitution of 14, and an Intelligence of 24. It was fun!
    How on Earth did you roleplay that monstrosity?

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    How on Earth did you roleplay that monstrosity?
    My guess is a rude smart-Alec of a wizard.
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    I'd see it as "HA! You petty mortals and your STUPID problems. I COULD help you, but I don't FEEL like it. Think I'll just laugh while that dragon eats you.

    Oh wait, we're friends?"

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    I currently have two characters (both are race/class combos with backstories my DM gave me to put flesh on.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery Diamond View Post
    How on Earth did you roleplay that monstrosity?
    Look at the average World of Warcraft Pvper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Objection View Post
    I'm curious as to how a high int low wis character works. Is it like they're book smart but not street smart or something?
    What about the opposite? I'm trying to come up with a way to portray a high Wisdom low Intelligence character that isn't Forrest Gump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spamotron View Post
    What about the opposite? I'm trying to come up with a way to portray a high Wisdom low Intelligence character that isn't Forrest Gump.
    Simple, someone who goes by their instincts rather than by analysis and knowledge. Somewhat like an animal, I guess...
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    with the high wisdom low intellegence--- try the guy who doesn't have a good memory but has tons of common sense. The guy isn't book smart, but he knows how the world works and has an unusually accurate feel for situations.

    I can imagine a hero that is this way....

    I'm trying to imagine a villain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erictheredd View Post
    with the high wisdom low intellegence--- try the guy who doesn't have a good memory but has tons of common sense. The guy isn't book smart, but he knows how the world works and has an unusually accurate feel for situations.

    I can imagine a hero that is this way....

    I'm trying to imagine a villain.
    Think of the stereotypical Queen Bee of high school. That blond girl who is not too smart, but has a good feel for people. By reading their emotions they know the best way to manipulate someone. Its definitely a low int high wis/cha villain archetype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starwoof View Post
    Think of the stereotypical Queen Bee of high school. That blond girl who is not too smart, but has a good feel for people. By reading their emotions they know the best way to manipulate someone. Its definitely a low int high wis/cha villain archetype.
    High Int and High Wisdom would be?
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    High Int and High Wisdom would be?
    A very intelligent version of the low int high wisdom person. An all around genius.
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    I've seen a character with an 18 strength and a 7 constitution. That always seemed really...off, to me.

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