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Thread: Sword fights in the Wild West?
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2011-08-29, 01:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sword fights in the Wild West?
I just had a crazy idea about a sword-wielding warrior in a wild west setting. Have you ever come across this particular kind of genre-crossover in a game or other media? Is there any game system that would support this idea well?
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2011-08-29, 02:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sure, DnD. Everyone has so much HP, with a couple of levels and some CON, that your fighters could said through bullets and cut people to bits with Great Cleave.
There's bound to be some sourcebook or homebrewed rules for wild-west guns, by now.My Happy Song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcRj9lQDVGY
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2011-08-29, 02:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sword fights in the Wild West?
Sure, it's called the DMG. If you are willing to use Pathfinder, Ultimate Combat added a whole bunch o' guns and it's in the PF SRD now.
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2011-08-29, 02:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sword fights in the Wild West?
It hapens in deadlands a bit.
Eastern immigrants who stick to the old ways or cavelry men who have a fondness for their old saber.
It doesnt mean you can charge across a battle feild with sword in hand and not get shot up but an indian brave with a tomahawk up close will put the hurt on ya faster then any 6 gun.Aside from "have fun", i think the key to GMing is putting your players into situations where they need to make a choice that has no perfect outcome available. They will hate you for it, but they will be back at the table session after session.
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2011-08-29, 02:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sadly in DnD the Deflect Arrows feat requires use of a hand in which you aren't wielding anything. As written, you can deflect bullets with it.
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2011-08-29, 04:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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The anime Gun Sword sort of does this. As for the best system to handle it, I guess that depends on whether you actually want swords to be balanced with guns. For a cinematic game where Mr. Swordsman has a fair chance, I'm thinking M&M would handle it well.
Alternatively, I know there's a system based on Highlander. I've never actually looked at it, but that sounds like it may work for the concept.Last edited by flumphy; 2011-08-29 at 04:14 AM.
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2011-08-29, 04:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-29, 04:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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The problem with guns in dnd is that it's hard to balance them with swords. I dislike some of what pathfinder has done with guns.
You eventually get into the problem of guns have such a long range you have to kill someone before they get too close, but at the same time make sure the guy with a sword has a chance of getting there first.My extended signature.
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2011-08-29, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-29, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wait.... I have an idea..... What if we put samurai alongside cowboys and outlaws.... in space..... AWWWW YEAHHHH!!!!!! I'd play the hell out of that game.
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2011-08-29, 10:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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.....That sounds a LOT like Firefly, a tv series. They made a movie of it called Serenity.... also made a RPG game of it called Serenity. I recommend all three things.
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2011-08-29, 11:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-29, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Kurosawa's Yojimbo had guns and swords, and the remake was set in wild west (but lacked swords).
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2011-08-29, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-29, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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This. Oh so very much.
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2011-08-29, 02:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-08-29, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Far West does exactly this:
"The FAR WEST Adventure Game is a tabletop RPG featuring blazing sixguns, over-the-top kung fu action and far-out steampunk inventions, where you and your friends can create the adventures of warriors who wander the Dust Road — fighting for their clans, their cause, the oppressed, or their own interests in an endless frontier that lies beyond the confines of civilization."
In short, Western meets Wuxia.I would really like to see a game made by Obryn, Kurald Galain, and Knaight from these forums.
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2011-08-29, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Its in progress.
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Cowboy and Samurai blend well, both being lone travelers.
Warrior's Way was also a good cobination of the two genres. The higly trained warriors could kill a whole lot of baddies, but they weren't bulletproof.
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2011-08-29, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Eh, you used a different link anyways. On a side note, its not a matter of Samurai, its clearly far more influenced by China than Japan. What, with the Wuxia genre being distinctly Chinese. Also for that matter, Samurai are very connected to a larger feudal structure, and don't fit the "lone traveler" description very well, except for when they have been sent to do something.
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2011-08-29, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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That looks awesome!
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2011-08-29, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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The Wii game "Red Steel 2" also does this, I believe. I haven't played the game personally, but I recall it featured a man dressed in cowboy attire wielding a katana and a pistol.
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2011-08-30, 01:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yep. Its cowboys with motorcycles and swords, in Red Steel 2. Pretty cool concept, and fun to play.
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2011-08-30, 05:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Swords in the wild west? What's next? A campaign devoted to cowboys and aliens? Actually, that sounds pretty badass! We should get Harrison Ford and Daniel Craig to do it.
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2011-08-30, 05:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is pretty common, especially in Anime conventions where the Wild West is considered pretty cool but crossed over with traditional Japan.
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