Rewarding the Power-Gamer (PEACH)

[NeoSeraphi]

Superior Reality Bending
With the powers of cheapness, you have managed to achieve ultimate power before your true potential was unlocked. Therefore, you get to use your true potential to enhance your ultimate power.
Prerequisites: Ability to cast 9th level spells
Benefit: By using your ingenious powers, you have mastered magic before receiving the mighty boon that most casters get at 17th/18th level that grants them the power to master magic in the first place. So instead, you use that growth for something much deadlier.

Starting at 17th level, you cast all 9th level spells with a +2 bonus to their DC and a +2 to your caster level. (This bonus stacks with Spell Focus and other similar effects). Additionally, you may cast 9th level spells using your 8th level spell slots in addition to your 9th level spell slots.

Special: This feat must be taken at 16 HD or lower.

[Yitzi]

Power-gaming is its own reward; powergamers don't need to be made more powerful.

[The Underlord]

I assume this is a joke right?

[Trixie]

Needs to be about 20% cooler

[Morph Bark]

For the feat name to be true, limit it to divine spells only.

[Orzel]

Pffft.
Hahahahaa!
Feats?
A true power gamer forgot about those at level 12.

[NeoSeraphi]

For the feat name to be true, limit it to divine spells only.

I'm pretty sure the only way to get 9th level spells before 17th level is as a divine caster, but if anyone can think of an example of arcane casters doing it, then I'll change the name.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

I'm pretty sure the only way to get 9th level spells before 17th level is as a divine caster, but if anyone can think of an example of arcane casters doing it, then I'll change the name.

Beholder Mage should be able to do it, as should a 15th level character with Sanctum Spell (he's casting 8th level spells, but they count as 9th level, if I recall correctly).

Also...this is a joke, right?

[brujon]

Dragonwrought Kobold with Tome Dragon and Loredrake cheese can do it too...

[NeoSeraphi]

Dragonwrought Kobold with Tome Dragon and Loredrake cheese can do it too...

Loredrake only increases your caster level, it doesn't give you access to higher level spells

[jiriku]

Sanctum Earth Spell from a killer gnome could hit 9th level and duplicate miracles at...level 13, I think?

[Gorgondantess]

Pretty much any creature/template that gives more casting levels than it gives RHD should do the trick. Especially templates that add casting levels. White dragonspawn would do the trick, as if sorcerers weren't already gimped enough for the purposes of the feat (requiring CL 2 levels above HD instead of just one), so I suppose you'd have to go for white dragonspawn rite of passage kobold.

[NeoSeraphi]

Pretty much any creature/template that gives more casting levels than it gives RHD should do the trick. Especially templates that add casting levels. White dragonspawn would do the trick, as if sorcerers weren't already gimped enough for the purposes of the feat (requiring CL 2 levels above HD instead of just one), so I suppose you'd have to go for white dragonspawn rite of passage kobold.

White Dragonspawn are 3.0.

Sanctum Earth spell

Nice. Good thing I made sure the feat itself doesn't kick in until level 17. I was only thinking about apostle of peace cheese.

[Morph Bark]

Y'know, due to the way prerequisites work with feats, once you'd gain the benefit of the feat you'd no longer be able to use the benefit, since you wouldn't have less than 17 HD anymore.

(Exception being a character with less than 17 HD whose ECL is 17 or higher perhaps.)

[NeoSeraphi]

Y'know, due to the way prerequisites work with feats, once you'd gain the benefit of the feat you'd no longer be able to use the benefit, since you wouldn't have less than 17 HD anymore.

(Exception being a character with less than 17 HD whose ECL is 17 or higher perhaps.)

Argh! Damn feats. You are correct! Hold on, I'll fix it.

[Dryad]

Ehm... High UMD and scrolls/wands. That should grant you the ability to cast 9th lvl spells, even if they're cast from paper.

Also: I'm with the 'This must be a joke, right?'-group.

[NeoSeraphi]

Ehm... High UMD and scrolls/wands. That should grant you the ability to cast 9th lvl spells, even if they're cast from paper.

Also: I'm with the 'This must be a joke, right?'-group.

Of course it's a joke, the text of the feat is meta-meta-meta.

[Yitzi]

I'm pretty sure the only way to get 9th level spells before 17th level is as a divine caster, but if anyone can think of an example of arcane casters doing it, then I'll change the name.

Arcane thesis (with Heighten Spell if the DM doesn't accept cheap rules-lawyering as well as powegaming.)

[Morph Bark]

Of course it's a joke, the text of the feat is meta-meta-meta.

For some reason every time mentions the word meta, I feel like a Pokémon.

[NeoSeraphi]

Arcane thesis (with Heighten Spell if the DM doesn't accept cheap rules-lawyering as well as powegaming.)

Er...Even if you Heighten it, you won't be able to cast it as a 9th level spell unless you're using a 9th level spell slot. Which requires...being able to cast 9th level spells.

The way Heighten works it says "The spell is cast with all calculations based on its new effective spell slot". So if you reduce Heighten, its own text prevents it from working like that. If I Heighten an 8th level spell to a 9th level spell, but reduce it with a metamagic reducer to an 8th level spell slot, as the text of Heighten Spell reads, it works like an 8th level spell.

[ThiefInTheNight]

I know this is terrible, but I'm totally lost: can someone explain the joke?

[Hiro Protagonest]

Make it so you can't have a familiar or be a specialist or focused specialist wizard.

Truly, this would be a feat that sacrifices power for flavor.

[Ralasha]

Personally, I would use Candle Keep Scholar out of the Greyhawk Setting books. It allows you to reduce the spell level adjustment for Metamagic feats, while they still count as the modified level. Empower a 7th level spell using an 8th level spell slot, it still counts as a 9th spell slot. Congratulations. :P 13th/15th level, and 9th level spell.

The joke is that powergamers (like me) use the feats and rules against their intended purpose. Thereby being far more powerful for their level than they should be. This feat makes them more powerful, as if they needed it.

[ThiefInTheNight]

No, I get that, I meant the name. It's a reference to something, or something, and "meta-meta-meta", but I don't know what it means.

[Ralasha]

Hum, no clue really.

[NeoSeraphi]

No, I get that, I meant the name. It's a reference to something, or something, and "meta-meta-meta", but I don't know what it means.

The text of the feat "With the power of cheapness" refers to a power-gamer's direct meddling and optimizing, not to your character's actual power. Therefore it is a "metagame" term, which can be shortened to "meta". (A metagame term is one that breaks the 4th wall of the game)

As for the name, "Superior Reality Bending", it just refers to how 9th level spells tend to bend reality (shapechange, miracle, time stop, wish, etc), and the feat makes them better at it.