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    Halfling in the Playground
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    Default Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    Hiya Folks,

    Lately I have been obsessing over warriors that venerate death/undeath. I think it rather spiffy a warrior that, over time, could obtain undead like qualities. After rummaging through a number of books I came to the conclusion that what I am looking for either a) does not exist or b) is da*n hard to find. Which is what brought me here. I am hoping that some of the fine folks which haunt these forums can point me in the right direction. I am interested in both official material as well as homebrew.

    Here's the rundown ... I am looking for a warrior prestige class/base class which grants some undead related abilities/powers/whatever as you level. I was thinking something along the lines of the dread necromancer (but without the spellcasting of course :p).

    Any and all comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated.

    Cheers
    Volf

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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    PRC (WOTC)
    Blackguard (duh)
    Pale Master (though i believe that casts)
    Bone Knight
    Horned Harbinger

    Ebon Initiate i believe might suit your purposes, (think necromantic warlock, but stronger)

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    The New Horned Harbinger
    The Stygian Siphonist


    Lastly the Necronomist is part of Kellus's truenaming fix; Basically its a necromancer summoner with some melee ability and some death immunities. I dont THINK thats what you were looking for, but just in case

    Thats all i can think of off the top of my head. To find Silva's stuff....well...im sure googling silva stormrage will find one of his posts, and then you can check out his sig
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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    You check out Frank and K's Tome of Necromancy? There's a couple along those lines.
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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    Thanks a bunch for all the suggestions ... looks like I have some reading to do.

    Cheers
    Volf

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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    The Death Knight from Frank and K's Races of War sourcebook is something you should look at. It'll also take you to a set of LA+0 undead templates.

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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    My Ebon Initiate base class is a warrior-necro-lock type class, and it has a slew of prestige classes I've written for it.

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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    Wow! Really impressed with the ideas so far .... going to be using a couple of the suggestions to round out the population of my Ashen Cabal (aka cult of death worshippers and other necro related tidbits, although they are not necesssarily evil).

    I also had a stray thought for a prestige class idea ... what about a class that granted undead-like qualities (such as DR, immunity to poison/stunning/fatigue/crits/sneak attack/whatever) and also allowed the character to operate as if he had the diehard feat when reduced to negative hit points. This would be like a quasi-zombification survival mechanism that helps to keep the character alive. I wonder if this has been done before?

    As usual, thanks for all the help folks!

    Cheers
    Volf

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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volfogg View Post
    Wow! Really impressed with the ideas so far .... going to be using a couple of the suggestions to round out the population of my Ashen Cabal (aka cult of death worshippers and other necro related tidbits, although they are not necesssarily evil).

    I also had a stray thought for a prestige class idea ... what about a class that granted undead-like qualities (such as DR, immunity to poison/stunning/fatigue/crits/sneak attack/whatever) and also allowed the character to operate as if he had the diehard feat when reduced to negative hit points. This would be like a quasi-zombification survival mechanism that helps to keep the character alive. I wonder if this has been done before?

    As usual, thanks for all the help folks!

    Cheers
    Volf
    It would need more unique stuff. That's entirely a list of passives, with no unique powers. It's an NPC/monster template. Also, if you're interested in WoW, Jarian's death knight is quite cool, but I've never played it.

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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    Quote Originally Posted by YouLostMe View Post
    It would need more unique stuff. That's entirely a list of passives, with no unique powers. It's an NPC/monster template. Also, if you're interested in WoW, Jarian's death knight is quite cool, but I've never played it.
    To be fair, the Bone Knight is basically a walking list of passives, with the bonus that it only screws your cleric casting by 1 level for some darn nice passives.

    Actually, I'm pretty sure the prestige you are looking for is, in fact, the bone knight with the diehard added in somewhere along the lines. Its in the Eberron Book of Five Nations, in case you didn't know where it was.
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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    Don't be so quick to dismiss the Dread Necromancer.

    Ignore a large body of the spells, and you really do have some good 'black knight' options:
    • Your spells are touch attacks, so you can charge your sword with dark energy and beat enemies with it. Some spells can be combined with the charnel touch class feature, making for some devastating hits (Shivering touch + Charnel touch?).
    • You're really, surprisingly tough, despite being a 'caster'. DR, tons of temporary hp and a bottomless well of healing.
    • And you can magic jar one of your own undead, something far bigger and tougher than you are, to give yourself a suitable body. Consider the flavor value of getting a (just as an example) ogre body and then decking yourself out head to toe in black platemail, until your race can barely be determined. You're just one freakishly big dude with a raspy voice.

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    Halfling in the Playground
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    Default Re: Looking for some kind of "death/undead" warrior class/prestige class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daverin
    To be fair, the Bone Knight is basically a walking list of passives, with the bonus that it only screws your cleric casting by 1 level for some darn nice passives.
    Holy shizzer! Bone Knight is a huge list of passives. Its also the class that I was looking for. Gotta make a few simple changes is all. Going to swap out the increased spellcasting for full BaB and remove the turn undead requirement.

    Really appreciate the help folks!

    Cheers
    Volf

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