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    Default Refluffing/flavoring 3.5 psionics as sorcerery.

    Reposting from the old forums.

    I've been looking at the sorcerer class and I was dissapointed at the lack of real difference between the two classes. Especially with the bit about Charisma representing the sorcerer's force of will. Really people, Charisma in D&D is about social skills including leadership and influence. What, does the sorcerer talk the universe into doing what ever the hell he or she wants? Then I thought "Why not take 3.5 edition psionics and call that sorcerery instead"? So I'm calling the psion the sorcerer, the psychic warrior the mystic knight, wilder the warmage (unless any one here has any better ideas) and renaming the disciplines.

    Clairsentience becomes Divination
    Psychometabolism becomes either Transmutation or Lifewarping
    Psychokenisis becomes Evocation
    Psychoportation becomes Invocation
    Metacreativity becomes Conjuration
    Telepathy becomes Mentalism
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    Sorcerer traditons (psion dicsiplines)

    Psychometabolism-Transmutation
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    Hammer-Aliester's Bone Shattering Touch, Leaden Hands or Break Thine Foes
    Synesthete-Smyth's Sensory Switch
    Vigor-unchanged
    Biofeedback-Endure Suffering
    Body Equilibrium-Secrets of the Balanced Body
    Elfsight-unchanged
    Share Pain-Vitality Transference
    Energy Adaptation-
    (fire) Endure the Flame
    (cold) Withstand Winter's Wrath
    (sonic) Shriek Dampener
    (electricity) Lightening's Reprieve
    Body Adjustment-Flesh and Bone Knitting
    Body Purification-Cure The Body’s Ravages
    Share Pain, Forced-Curse of Shared Wounds
    Adapt Body-Soon I Shall Be Invincible
    Hostile Empathic Transfer-Vitality Theft
    Power Leech-Mana Drain
    Leech Field-Vampiric Miasma
    Breath of the Black Dragon-Fetid Breath
    Fuse Flesh-Maeda's Morphic Failure
    Suspend Life-Personal Stasis Field
    Energy Conversion-Agathion's Energy Capacitor
    Oak Body-unchanged
    Shadow Body-Aevaline's Dimensional Reductor
    True Metabolism-Assertions of Wholeness
    Affinity Field-So That All Shall Know Pain
    Assimilate-Devour

    Transmuters only

    Thicken Skin-Beasthide
    Animal Affinity-Beastlike Aspect
    Chameleon-unchanged
    Empathic Transfer-Gift of Life
    Ectoplasmic Form-Gaseous Form
    Hustle-unchanged
    Metamorphosis-unchanged
    Psychic Vampire-Mana Theft
    Psionic Revivify-Revivify
    Psychofeedback-Smyth's Physical Roulette
    Restore Extremity-unchanged
    Restoration, Psionic-Restoration
    Fission-From One Many
    Fusion-From Many One
    Greater Metamorphosis-unchanged


    Psychokenisis-Evocation
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    Control Flames-Twist the Flames
    Control Light-Light Bent Round by Will
    Energy Ray-varies
    (fire) Flare Arrow
    (cold) Freeze Bolt
    (electricity) Lightning Dart
    (sonic) Thunder Bullet
    Far Hand-Mage Hand
    Force Screen-Sheild Unseen
    Inertial Armor-Foe Halting Barrier
    Matter Agitation-Fuegor's Slow Incineration
    My Light-Alight Mine Eyes or Glowing Eyes
    Concussion Blast-Telekinetic Crush
    Energy Push-varies
    (fire) Fiery Impact
    (cold) Icy Collision
    (electricity) Shocking Clash
    (sonic) Howling Buffet
    Energy Stun-varies
    (fire) Numbing Heat
    (cold) Freezing Cold
    (electricity) Staggering Lightning
    (sonic) Overwhelming Noise
    Psionic Levitate-Levitate
    Energy Bolt-varies
    (fire) Belting Flame
    (cold) Ice Shot
    (electricity) Lightening Bolt
    (sonic) Roaring Blitz
    Energy Burst-varies
    (fire) Flame Eruption
    (cold) Heat Sink
    (electricity) Voltaic Detonation
    (sonic) Scream
    Energy Retort-varies
    (fire) Burning Reprisal
    (cold) Retaliation in Frost
    (electricity) Electric Retribution
    (sonic) Cries of Vengence
    Energy Wall-varies
    (fire) Fire Ring
    (cold) Chilling Bulwark
    (electricity) Static Wall
    (sonic) Cacophonic Barrier
    Mental Barrier-Deflect
    Telekenitic Force-unchanged
    Telekenitic Thrust-unchanged
    Telekenitic Maneuver-unchanged
    Catapsi-Mana Disruption
    Energy Wave-varies
    (fire) Burning Wave
    (cold) Cold Winds
    (electricity) Shockwave
    (sonic) Thunderblast

    Evokers only

    Control Object-Puppeteer
    Control Air-Control Winds
    Energy Missile-varies
    (fire) Flame Fullisade
    (cold) Icy Shower
    (electricity) Fulguric Jolt
    (sonic) Sound Cutter
    Energy Cone-varies
    (fire) Fireblast
    (cold) Freezing Spray
    (electricity) Galvanic Eruption
    (sonic) Shout
    Control Body-Living Puppet
    Energy Ball-varies
    (fire) Fireball
    (cold) Frost Bomb
    (electricity) Shockstorm
    (sonic) Thunderblast
    Inertial Barrier-Impact Ward
    Energy Current-varies
    (fire) Ignition Spirit
    (cold) Icy Coil
    (electricity) Dancing Lightning
    (sonic) Dreadful Wretched Noise
    Fiery Discorporation-unchanged
    Dispelling Buffer-unchanged
    Null Psionic Field-Anti Magic Field
    Reddopsi-Spell Turning
    Psionic Telekinetic Sphere-Telekinetic Sphere
    Tornado Blast-unchanged


    Psychoportation-Invocation
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    Astral Traveler-unchanged
    Catfall-unchanged
    Deceleration-Distance Doubling Hex
    Dissipating Touch-Dimension Shattering Touch
    Float-Exactly what it says on the tin
    Skate-Exactly what it says on the tin
    Psionic Levitate-Exactly what it says on the tin
    Time Hop-Banish To Future
    Psionic Dimension Door-Dimension Door
    Psionic Freedom of Movement-Freedom of Movement
    Psionic Plane Shift-Plane Shift
    Psionic Disintegrate-Disintegrate
    Retrieve-Call to Hand
    Temporal Acceleration-Exactly what it says on the tin
    Divert Teleport-Exactly what it says on the tin
    Decerebrate-Exactly what it says on the tin
    Psionic Phase Door-Phase Door
    Psionic Greater Teleport-Teleport Without Error
    Psionic Etherealness-Etherealness
    Bend Reality-Seeing Is Believing
    Reality Revision-World of My Dreams

    Invokers only

    Burst-Fleet of Foot
    Detect Teleportation-Sense Mystic Arrival
    Dimension Swap-Change of Places
    Levitate, Psionic-Levitate
    Astral Caravan-Sailing Through an Ocean of Night
    Psionic Dimensional Anchor-Dimensional Anchor
    Psionic Dismissal-Dismissal
    Psionic Fly-Fly
    Baleful Teleport-Rending Translocation
    Psionic Teleport-Teleport
    Teleport Trigger-Contingent Teleport
    Psionic Banishment-Banishment
    Dream Travel-unchanged
    Psionic Ethereal Jaunt-Ethereal Jaunt
    Time Hop, Mass-Shift the Many Through Time
    Psionic Teleportation Circle-Teleportation Circle
    Time Regression-Rewind


    Metacreativity-Conjuration
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    Bolt-Conjure Ammunition
    Crystal Shard-Spear of Stone
    Ecto Protection-Anchor Conjuration
    Entangling Ectoplasm-Slimegout
    Psionic Grease-Grease
    Concealing Amorpha-Aetheric Cloak
    Swarm of Crystals-Hail of Blades
    Dismiss Ectoplasm-Unbind Conjuration
    Psionic Keen Edge-Keen Edge
    Wall of Ectoplasm-Wall of Aether
    Ectoplasmic Shambler-Hungry Fog
    Matter Manipulation-Aligning the Matrix

    Conjurers only

    Astral Construct-Shape Aetheric Beast
    Psionic Minor Creation-Minor Creation
    Psionic Repair Damage-Reconstruction
    Greater Concealing Amorpha-True Aetheric Cloak
    Ectoplasmic Cocoon-Chain Bind
    Psionic Fabricate-Sorcerer's Fabrication
    Quintessence-Distill Time
    Hail of Crystals-Razor Grenade
    Crystallize-Curse of Crystiline or Rocklike Woe
    Greater Psionic Fabricate-Sorcerous Mastery of Fabrication
    Mass Ectoplasmic Cocoon-Mass Bondage
    Astral Seed-Hidden Life Spark
    Genesis-unchanged
    True Creation-unchanged


    Telepathy-Mentalism
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    Attraction-Desire
    Conceal Thoughts-Mask Mind
    Psionic Daze-Daze
    Déjà Vu-Encore
    Demoralize-Dishearten
    Disable-Delusion of Incapacitation
    Empathy-Detect Emotions
    Empty Mind-Mind Guard
    Mind Thrust-Telepathic Stab
    Missive-Message
    Sense Link-Thine Eyes
    Telempathic Projection-Emotive Alteration
    Bestow Power-Mana Transfer. Seems Universal to me, or at least Invocation
    Cloud Mind-Concept of Absence
    Detect Hostile Intent-Unchanged
    Ego Whip-Spiritual Lash
    Id Insinuation-Confusion
    Inflict Pain-Agony Hex
    Mental Disruption-Mind Crash
    Mass Missive-Mass Message
    Recall Agony-Past And Future Pain
    Forced Sense Link-Sensory Hijack
    Thought Shield-Mental Buffer
    Psionic Tongues-Tongues
    Mind Trap-Mental Void
    Psionic Blast-Telepathic Blast
    Correspond-Mental Bond
    Death Urge-unchanged
    Mindwipe-Mental Erasure
    Personality Parasite-unchanged
    Psychic Reformation-Paths Not Taken
    Catapsi-Mana Disruption
    Psychic Crush-Crippling Thought
    Shatter Mind Blank-unchanged
    Tower of Iron Will-unchanged
    Aura Alteration-Blackening the Eye of the Beholder
    Mass Cloud Mind-Mental Void
    Co-opt Concentration-Mystic Hijack
    Decebrate-unchanged, this is conjuration
    Insanity-unchanged
    Personal Mind Blank-unchanged
    Ultrablast-Psychic Shriek
    Psionic Mind Blank-Mind Blank
    Apopsi-Mystic Erasure

    Mentalists only

    Psionic Charm-Charm
    Mindlink-unchanged
    Aversion-Repulsion
    Brain Lock-Mental Halt
    Read Thoughts-unchanged
    Psionic Suggestion-Suggestion
    Crisis of Breath-Suffocation Impulse
    False Sensory Input-Sensory Corruption
    Psionic Dominate-Dominate
    Thieving Mindlink-Mental Tap
    Psionic Modify Memory-Modify Memory
    Schism-unchanged
    Metaconcert-Circle Casting
    Mind Probe-unchanged
    Mind Switch-unchanged
    Crisis of Life-Existential Crisis
    Mind Seed-Mindworm
    True Mind Switch-unchanged
    Psychic Chirurgery-unchanged


    Clairsentience-Divination
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    Call to Mind-Mystic Recall
    Detect Psionics-Detect Magic
    Know Direction and Location-exactly what it says on the tin.
    Defensive Precognition-Danger Awareness
    Offensive Precognition-Anticipate Defense
    Offensive Prescience-Future of Pain
    Psionic Identify-Identify
    Danger Sense-Trap Anticipation
    Ubiquitous Vision-Ubiquitous Vision
    Aura Sight-Aura Sight
    Detect Remote Viewing-Detect Scrying
    Psionic Divination-Divination
    Psionic True Seeing-True Seeing
    Psionic Contingency-Contingency
    Remote View Trap-Stab The Mind's Eye
    Recall Death-Demise Preordained

    Diviners only

    Destiny Dissonance-Future Shock
    Precognition-Omen of Success
    Clairvoyant Sense-Scrying
    Object Reading-Psychometric Touch
    Sensitivity to Psychic Impressions-Hindsight
    Escape Detection-Shrouded Sight
    Fate Link-Destiny Bond
    Anchored Navigation-Teleport Bacon
    Remote Viewing-Greater Scrying
    Clairtangent Hand-Telekinetic Sensor
    Second Chance-not a bad name
    Greater Precognition-Victory Foretold
    Fate of One-It Never Happened
    Hypercognition-Tapestry of Fate
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    Default Re: Refluffing/flavoring 3.5 psionics as sorcerery.

    While we're at it let's also tackle both the reflavored psychic warrior and ardent. I'm not particularly knowledgable about the ardent but I hope its okay.

    Mystic Knight (psychic warrior) spells

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    Astral Traveler-unchanged
    Biofeedback-Endure Suffering
    Bite of the Wolf-unchanged
    Burst-Fleet of Foot
    Call Weaponry-Weapon of the Aether
    Catfall-unchanged
    Chameleon-unchanged
    Claws of the Beast-unchanged
    Compression-Shrink Self
    Conceal Thoughts-Mask Mind
    Detect Psionics-Detect Magic
    Dissipating Touch-Dimension Shattering Touch
    Distract-
    Elfsight-
    Empty Mind-
    Expansion-
    Float-
    Force Screen-
    Grip of Iron-
    Hammer-Aliester's Bone Shattering Touch, Leaden Hands or Break Thine Foes
    Inertial Armor-
    Metaphysical Claw-
    Metaphysical Weapon-
    My Light-
    Precognition, Defensive-
    Precognition, Offensive-
    Prescience, Offensive-
    Prevenom-
    Prevenom Weapon-
    Skate-
    Stomp-
    Synesthete-
    Thicken Skin-
    Vigor-

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    Animal Affinity-
    Body Adjustment-
    Body Equilibrium-
    Body Purification-
    Concealing Amorpha-
    Darkvision, Psionic-
    Detect Hostile Intent-
    Dimension Swap-
    Disolving Touch-Touch of Rot or Hands of Decay
    Dissolving Weapon-
    Empathic Transfer-
    Energy Adaptation, Specified-
    Feat Leech A-
    Hustle-
    Levitate, Psionic-
    Painful Strike-
    Prowess-
    Psionic Lion’s Charge-
    Psionic Scent-
    Strength of My Enemy-
    Sustenance-
    Thought Shield-
    Wall Walker-

    3
    Claws of the Vampire-
    Concealing Amorpha, Greater-
    Danger Sense-
    Dimension Slide-
    Duodimensional Claw-
    Ectoplasmic Form-
    Empathic Feedback-
    Empathic Transfer, Hostile-
    Escape Detection-
    Evade Burst-
    Exhalation of the Black Dragon-
    Graft Weapon-
    Keen Edge, Psionic-
    Mental Barrier-
    Ubiquitous Vision-
    Vampiric Blade-

    4
    Claw of Energy-
    Dimension Door, Psionic-
    Energy Adaptation-
    Freedom of Movement, Psionic-
    Immovability-
    Inertial Barrier-
    Psychic Vampire-
    Steadfast Perception-
    Truevenom-
    Truevenom Weapon-
    Weapon of Energy-

    5
    Adapt Body-
    Catapsi-
    Metaconcert-
    Oak Body-
    Psychofeedback-

    6
    Breath of the Black Dragon-
    Dispelling Buffer-
    Form of Doom-
    Mind Blank, Personal-
    Suspend Life-


    Templar Magus (ardent) spells

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    CHAOS MANTLE
    1. Destiny Dissonance:
    Matter Agitation:
    2. Distracting Shout:
    4. Personality Parasite:
    5. Catapsi:
    6. Inconstant Location:
    8. Chaos Fissure:
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    Default Re: Refluffing/flavoring 3.5 psionics as sorcerery.

    Wow! this is just what I needed. thanks Alot
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    Default Re: Refluffing/flavoring 3.5 psionics as sorcerery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Really people, Charisma in D&D is about social skills including leadership and influence.
    Not really. Charisma is about strength of personality.

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    Default Re: Refluffing/flavoring 3.5 psionics as sorcerery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yitzi View Post
    Not really. Charisma is about strength of personality.
    No, Charisma is about persuasiveness, personal magnetism and the ability to exert one's presence and influence. Maybe you could argue that the standard core sorcerer work his or her magic by exerting their presence and influence on the fabric of reality. But the project is about reflavoring the psionic classes as spellcasters.

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    Default Re: Refluffing/flavoring 3.5 psionics as sorcerery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    No, Charisma is about persuasiveness, personal magnetism and the ability to exert one's presence and influence. Maybe you could argue that the standard core sorcerer work his or her magic by exerting their presence and influence on the fabric of reality. But the project is about reflavoring the psionic classes as spellcasters.
    It's both, but primarily strength of personality:


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    Default Re: Refluffing/flavoring 3.5 psionics as sorcerery.

    Okay then, so what does "force of personality mean" anyway? By the way is anyone interested in helping me rename some more psionic powers?

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