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    Default Vote Up a New Base Class! The Final Round!

    And the 3rd round comes to an end! Wow, that was a vicious bout, huh? Anyway, let's start discussing the level up scheme, shall we? Obviously, the shapeshifter will gain his first form at level 1, but what about the other 7-9 forms? Each form will improve as he levels, so we can't give him a form at level 20 (there's no time for buildup there, there will just be a nonform capstone)

    I have two separate arrays in mind, so I'll post them here, and you guys can vote for A or B. Also, I'm going to have you vote on the flavor. How is he gaining his power?

    You get two votes. One for the Level Up Scheme, one for the Fluff. Both votes may only be used to vote-up. Write-ins are allowed for the Flavor only.

    Please remember to bold your votes. This round will conclude on January 30th.


    Level Up Scheme
    {table] Name | Scheme | Votes
    A | New Forms at 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, and 18, with other forms available through feats | 13
    B | New Forms available at every even level, no forms allowed through feats | 2
    [/table]


    Fluff
    {table] Fluff | Vote
    Arcane | 1
    Divine |
    Lycanthropic Heritage |
    "Connection to Nature" |
    Unstable Genetics as the Result of a Lab Experiment | 6
    Communes with unseen spirits and accepts their gifts to change | 8
    [/table]



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    {table]Animal Forms | Votes
    Bear | 1
    Wolf |
    Tiger | 2
    Hawk |
    Snake | 2
    Elephant | 1
    Badger | 6
    Wolverine | 1
    Boar |
    Rhino | 1
    Horse | -3
    Hippo | 2
    Rat | 1
    [/table]

    {table]Aquatic Forms | Votes
    Shark | 2
    Dolphin |
    Octopus/Squid | 4
    Orca | 1
    Whale |
    Fish | 1
    Crocodile | 2
    [/table]

    {table] Plant Forms | Votes
    Shambling Mount |
    Treant | 5
    Assassin Vine | 2
    [/table]

    {table]Giant Forms | Votes
    Hill Giant | 2
    Ogre |
    Ettin |
    Troll | 4
    [/table]

    {table]Dinosaur Forms |Votes
    Stegosaurus |
    Velociraptor | 5
    Tyrannosaurus |
    Plesiosaurus |
    Pterodactyl | 1
    [/table]

    {table]Magical Beast Forms | Votes
    Hydra | 5
    Chimera |1
    Sphinx | 3
    Displacer Beast | 1
    Blink Dog | 4
    Remorhaz | 1
    Purple Worm | 2
    Owlbear | 2
    Pegasus |
    Lamia |
    Lammasu |
    Dragonne |
    Gray Render | 2
    Girallon | 2
    Manticore |
    Worg | 1
    Phase Spider | 2
    Bulette | 2
    [/table]

    {table]Aberration Forms | Votes
    Illithid | 3
    Beholder | 3
    Drider |
    Destrachan | 1
    Aboleth | -1
    Ettercap |
    Gibbering Mouther |
    Grick | 1
    Slithar | 1
    Meduthid | 3
    Rust Monster | 1
    [/table]

    {table]Monstrous Humanoid Forms | Votes
    Centaur | 2
    Hag |
    Medusa | 1
    Minotaur | 3
    Grimlock |
    Harpy | 2
    [/table]

    {table] Ooze Forms | Vote
    Pudding |
    Gelatinous Cube | 3
    [/table]

    {table]Vermin Forms | Vote
    Monstrous Spider | 1
    Monstrous Centipede |
    Giant Ant |
    Giant Bee | 1
    Giant Beetle |
    Giant Wasp | 1
    Giant Praying Mantis | 2
    Monstrous Scorpion | 2
    [/table]


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    {table]Base Attack Bonus | Votes
    Full | 8
    3/4 | 10
    1/2 | 1
    [/table]

    {table]Hit Dice | Votes
    d4 |
    d6 | 1
    d8 | 14
    d10 | 4
    d12 |
    [/table]

    {table] Skill Points | Votes
    2+Int |
    4+Int | 13
    6+Int | 5
    8+Int |
    [/table]

    {table]Base Saves | Votes
    All Good Saves |
    Good Fort | 2
    Good Fort, Good Ref | 12
    Good Fort, Good Will | 2
    Good Ref | 1
    Good Ref, Good Will | 2
    Good Will |
    [/table]


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    Primary Role (Non-Casters)
    {table]Role | Votes
    Melee Damager | 2
    Tank |
    Blaster |
    Buffer | 1
    Debuffer | 1
    Healer | 1
    Necromancer | 4
    Crafter/Magic Item Creator | 1
    Skill Monkey/Party Face | 3
    Archer | 3
    Shapeshifter | 5
    Skirmisher | 4
    [/table]


    Primary Roles (Caster/Psionic/Invoker)
    {table]Role | Votes
    Necromancer | 1
    Blaster |
    Enchanter |
    Illusionist |2
    Buffer |
    Debuffer |
    Gish |
    Shapeshifter |
    Healer |
    Artificer | 1
    [/table]
    Last edited by NeoSeraphi; 2012-01-29 at 12:14 PM.

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    Vote up Necromancer
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    Default Re: Vote Up a New Base Class! Round I

    Necromancer, as long as it is NOT a spellcaster.
    Healer, as long as it is NOT a spellcaster.
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    Crafter Up*
    Necromancer Up*

    *Non-spellcaster
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    Vote up Shapeshifter and Skirmisher.
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    Default Re: Vote Up a New Base Class! Round I

    Votes tallied, and in case Edro asks, the crafting class was never intended to be a spellcaster. (Emulating spells, like an artificer, but no actual spellcasting)

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    Skirmisher
    Psionic Artificer


    EDIT: Changed my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldest View Post
    Vote up Shapeshifter and Skirmisher.
    Shapeshifter
    *cough*
    Both were meant to be non-magical, by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldest View Post
    *cough*
    Both were meant to be non-magical, by the way.
    Oh, they are. But when you voted, Silva had already voted down Shapeshifter, so your two votes canceled out. Sorry.

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    Up on Skirmisher.
    Down on (non-casting) Necromancer.
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    Vote up skill monkey and skirmisher.
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    Up on Skill Monkey
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    Up Non-magical Debuffer that just seems fun/interesting
    Down on Skirmisher
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    Ok, sorry. My bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydos View Post
    Up Non-magical Debuffer that just seems fun/interesting
    Down on Skirmisher
    In case it doesn't win, I already have something similar.
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    what is the difference between a skirmisher and a melee damager?

    I just need a better deliniation between the two.. I think i understand.. but before I cast my vote I need to make sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    what is the difference between a skirmisher and a melee damager?

    I just need a better deliniation between the two.. I think i understand.. but before I cast my vote I need to make sure.
    A skirmisher is a 3/4 BAB class that focuses on mobility and precision damage, like a scout. A melee damager is a full BAB warrior who focuses on dishing out damage, like a barbarian.
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    Up Archer.
    Up Skirmisher
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    VOTE UP NON CASTER BUFER!!!

    the idea just blows my mind into little bits!!

    Vote down NON CASTER CRAFTER GUY

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    vote up Melee Damager
    vote up Invoker Blaster
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    Up Non-caster Shapeshifer

    Up Skirmisher

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoSeraphi View Post
    Votes tallied, and in case Edro asks, the crafting class was never intended to be a spellcaster. (Emulating spells, like an artificer, but no actual spellcasting)
    I meant no emulating spells either, just pure craftsmanship and skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdroGrimshell View Post
    I meant no emulating spells either, just pure craftsmanship and skill
    Oh okay. Well, I'll take that into consideration then. It'll take some brainstorming, but I'll figure it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by al'raith
    vote up Blaster
    Please specify whether you would like to vote up the Spellcaster/Psionic/Invoker blaster or the non-magical blaster.

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    Up Non-Magical shapeshifter.
    Down Skirmisher.
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    Up Nonmagical Shapeshifter
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    Quote Originally Posted by TravelLog View Post
    Up Nonmagical Shapeshifter
    Up Debuffer
    You need to select a magical or non-magical debuffer, TravelLog. Please.

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    I could be mistaken, but it looks like Skirmisher should have a net of 2...? (I thought it would be more, in fact, but there have been a lot of down-votes for it.)
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    I will vote up Illusionist and non-caster shapeshifter

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    +1 Party Face
    -1 Shapeshifter

    I may change my mind though......sorry!
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    +1 for non-caster necromancer, -1 for non-caster shapeshifter.

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