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    Shouldn't have had lunch while checking for updates. And sure, I wasn't eating any solids, but liquid veggie mush isn't much better.

    I guess a dampened appetite is good for the post holiday season diet.

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    Don't get on V's bad side before breakfast. Don't get on his bad side after breakfast either apparently.
    If I was going to gross people out, I would say this is occuring during breakfast. >:)

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    Nice to see V and Belkar bond over something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joxer t' Mighty View Post
    Wait, so forcing a guy who tried to kill you and your pet to eat **** is now an 'evil' act?

    Folks, there is something called 'neutrality'. For a comic devoted to showing the falacy of thinking in terms of black and white, posters here sure seem to cling to it... much like the ranch de bowels do to the kobold's fangs.
    The existance of neutrality does not preclude this being an evil act- though it's usually possible for a neutral character to commit a few and not fall.

    It comes across to me as "torture for fun" though.
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    This from the same elf who went on rescue adventures for salad-dressing people. Sounds like neutrality to me.
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    Ugh, I was all excited about another update so soon after the one yesterday, but after reading the punchline - I'm just a bit queasy. Least favorite OotS ever.

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    Of course neutality doesn't meant there isn't evil. The point of my post is that whenever something 'gross' happens, the common consensus is it's evil.

    Everything seems to be registered on the either black or white scale... though this is likely more of a light brown, with runny bits of yellow perhaps.

    This seems neutral, or at least far more neutral than killing him.
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    Belkar's wish finally came true, he has a sentient being that he can crap in now. Or have his cat crap in...

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    +25 points of evil for V and Belkar.
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    Ewww.

    Most revolting OotS yet. Though I can't really say it's out of character.
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    You know, I gotta admit I'm more squicked out by Mr. Scruffy's revenge dump than I am by the idea of just killing the kobold while he's helpless. Not sure what that says about me.

    It's a bit of a longshot, but I think they might just leave the kobold. He's in the middle of nowhere in the desert with no way of contacting the Linear Guild or following Durkon, V, and Belkar. Would he even remember how he got there?

    I guess that's a rules question -- would the kobold remember anything that happened to him while he was dominated? Or would he just wake up in the desert with a great need for listerine, wondering what happened to the palace and the big pile of treasure?

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    His silent screams....So. V can hear his mental screams? And refers to them as a symphony?

    Dude....

    Someone should get to making a V is Chaotic Neutral thread. Pronto.
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    "His screams are a silent symphony I cannot share."

    Sorry, folks, but enjoying the screams of a helpless prisoner is not neutral. It is evil.

    That said, I do hope we can avoid another 'morally justified' thread.
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    All things considered, the kobold got off easy.

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    Thank you very much, Rich, for not showing that on-panel.

    I honestly think that my reaction would have been very much like Durkon's.

    That said, it was classic Belkar.
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    My reaction was a mix of and LOL. the LOL won in the end.

    Yes, this is an evil-ish act but I don't think it qualifies for an alignment shift for V. As it has already been mentioned V is not new to this kind of stuff (the Evan's Spiked Tentacles of Forced Intrusion!! ).

    It seems to me that some people is expecting a neutral leaning on good behaviour from V, while it seems to me that (s)he has been consistently neutral (besides the soul-splice event: familicide was EVIL).
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    That was a clear act of hilariously evil.

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    I hope one of our $1250 backers decides they like V's adventure helping Prince Oozalot and rescuing Gootrude enough to request it as a story.
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    I'm with Durkon on this one.

    Clever, [and funny!] but...ewwww...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    I hope one of our $1250 backers decides they like V's adventure helping Prince Oozalot and rescuing Gootrude enough to request it as a story.
    Why, if it might be bonus material?!
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    At least the debate about the effect of sour cream and chives on a cat has been resolved. We now know the consequences...

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    Why, if it might be bonus material?!
    As pointed out by Belkar and V, unlikely. Pretty sure Rich is poking fun at us.
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    I am laughing so hard it hurts! Dairy really is not good for felines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    Sorry, folks, but enjoying the screams of a helpless prisoner is not neutral. It is evil.

    That said, I do hope we can avoid another 'morally justified' thread.
    A good rule of thumb when assessing the morality of any act is:

    "Does it involve somebody being hurt, oppressed, debased, or killed, deliberately or negligently?"

    "Are the justifications given for the act unsatisfactory?"

    If both of these are the case, then one should not be afraid to label that particular act evil.
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    And once again, V reminds us that True Neutral doesn't necessarily mean Do Good Most of the Time While Occasionally Looking the Other Way When It Is Time To Be Heroic.

    I eagerly await the comparisons between V's act here and the Elven Commander's treatment of his prisoner.

    (For the record, V's treatment of his prisoner is worse IMO. )
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    Yuk...


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    Is anyone else noticing that most of V's word ballons seem to be coming from Blackwing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel_Token View Post
    Are we really going to get another slew of threads evaluating whether V is "evil" for discarding some low-level mook?

    It's no longer a useful tool now that V has her normal archer (Haley) back. And if the Linear Guild were to break the enchantment during combat, that would be bad.
    This does count as cruel and unusual punishment, though.

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    Go get your multipurpose mind controlled Kobolds?
    - Use as a gun
    - Use as a personal litter box.
    Since this arc have once a day update week, I hope the new book will have little bonus scene.
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