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    Quote Originally Posted by Andvare View Post


    We've all been there, well, I have.
    Either tipsy or up to 4am slaving away to finish a character concept cause your brain won't shut up about it.

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    Cavalier Guide - and a marvelous one.

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    Excellent! I'll add it at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTrees View Post
    Knowledge (local) being trained only, and not a class skill for many classes, means that your average human may well not be able to identify other humans! This may explain the exceptional quantity of half-human hybrids.

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    There is a Guide to Guides in the paizo forum. Along with the missing Samurai Guide.

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    Sup bro, can you take the (WIP) label off of my Alch guide?

    Also got a barbarian guide of mine to add to the pile.

    How to become the Lord of Rage

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    Quote Originally Posted by N. Jolly View Post
    Sup bro, can you take the (WIP) label off of my Alch guide?

    Also got a barbarian guide of mine to add to the pile.

    How to become the Lord of Rage
    Changed and added!

    Edit: Also did some work on my Aegis guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTrees View Post
    Knowledge (local) being trained only, and not a class skill for many classes, means that your average human may well not be able to identify other humans! This may explain the exceptional quantity of half-human hybrids.

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    Hello,

    Pardon what could be a silly question from an extreme noob to this forum, but why isn't this thread stickied? Seems like handy info to keep up top-side.

    Thanks,
    Ghorrin
    Last edited by GhorrinRedblade; 2013-12-09 at 12:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhorrinRedblade View Post
    Hello,

    Pardon what could be a silly question from an extreme noob to this forum, but why isn't this thread stickied? Seems like handy info to keep up top-side.

    Thanks,
    Ghorrin
    It's a decent idea. My guesses as to why not:

    1. There are very few threads stickied on the forums. Even some incredibly commonly referenced threads (such as Tier System for Classes and Urpriest's monsters explanation guide) aren't stickied, and I'd probably put those above mine.

    2. It's fairly easy to find this thread (and many of these class guides) with a quick Google search.

    3. You can subscribe to threads to keep track of threads you like or think you'll use again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTrees View Post
    Knowledge (local) being trained only, and not a class skill for many classes, means that your average human may well not be able to identify other humans! This may explain the exceptional quantity of half-human hybrids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novawurmson View Post
    It's a decent idea. My guesses as to why not:

    1. There are very few threads stickied on the forums. Even some incredibly commonly referenced threads (such as Tier System for Classes and Urpriest's monsters explanation guide) aren't stickied, and I'd probably put those above mine.

    2. It's fairly easy to find this thread (and many of these class guides) with a quick Google search.

    3. You can subscribe to threads to keep track of threads you like or think you'll use again.
    Fair points all, just a different manner of doing business than I'm used to. This became my first Subscribed thread. :)

    Thanks for the prompt reply.

    Ghorrin

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhorrinRedblade View Post
    Fair points all, just a different manner of doing business than I'm used to. This became my first Subscribed thread. :)
    Subscribe?

    Heck, this sucker's in my signature!
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    Subscribe?

    Heck, this sucker's in my signature!
    ::blush:: You guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTrees View Post
    Knowledge (local) being trained only, and not a class skill for many classes, means that your average human may well not be able to identify other humans! This may explain the exceptional quantity of half-human hybrids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novawurmson View Post
    ::blush:: You guys.
    There's a for that
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    Horribly out of date guide goes here:
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    http://zenithgames.blogspot.ca/2012/...er-guides.html

    Another comprehensive list. I imagine you guys have both got some the other doesn't.

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    There is a notable threads sticky on the main roleplaying section. Maybe we could ask for one here.
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    Magic Item Crafter Guide

    As sub-optimal as it may seem (or be) to be a dedicated crafter, in spite of (or because of, depending on your point of view) the changes they made to magic item crafting in the transition to Pathfinder. I saw fit to play one because it's a useful role in our current campaign (I've found many MANY things to be annoyed at with some of the "common knowledge" about CharOp... but that's a rant that so totally does not belong here), I found this guide and I figured it might as well get put into the Guides compendium.

    Cheers, and I hope someone else finds it useful!

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    "Axe’s Guide to Finding Divinity" returns a 404.

    "THE COMPLETE Professor Q's Guide to the Pathfinder Wizard" should point to the PFSRD lab page to avoid gettin' the Google Doc in suggestion mode, which makes it impossible to peruse.
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    It's a shame that a lot of those guides haven't kept up with and been updated in such a long while. Like, Walters Guide to the Magus... It's got a BUNCH of Aracana missing, and feat suggestions. I wish someone would come along and just do an updated Arcana guide, or maybe a set of guides for class abilities like that that have been added to over the years since these original guides (though amazing, and still very relevant) were published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfkin_King View Post
    Elric has a number of PoW guides that have a shared thread with links to them. On phone, so I can link later if no one beats me to it.

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    I have posted guides to DSP's Akashic Mysteries, which I like to think are fairly good. Just need to finish up with equipment and traits. Link in my sig (/shameless plug).

    Also slowly working on a Dread guide, but it isn't in postable form yet.
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    Optimization stops being practical and starts being theoretical when your DPR is measured in Tarrasques instead of hit points
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    PsyBomb's Guides to the Akashic Mysteries (Now with all three classes!)
    Fear Itself: the Dread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfkin_King View Post
    There are guides for all the PoW and PoW:E classes except for the newly released Mystic in my signature. They're all located in one easy to use thread too because I'm too lazy to keep updating forum posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfkin_King View Post
    It's a shame that a lot of those guides haven't kept up with and been updated in such a long while. Like, Walters Guide to the Magus... It's got a BUNCH of Aracana missing, and feat suggestions. I wish someone would come along and just do an updated Arcana guide, or maybe a set of guides for class abilities like that that have been added to over the years since these original guides (though amazing, and still very relevant) were published.
    Ugh. Tell me about it. My own guides are woefully out of date. Lemme see if I've got all the PoW and Akashic guides up.

    Edit: None of the Akashic guides were up? Well, at least that's fixed.

    Edit: Added the master list for PoW guides from Elricaltovilla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTrees View Post
    Knowledge (local) being trained only, and not a class skill for many classes, means that your average human may well not be able to identify other humans! This may explain the exceptional quantity of half-human hybrids.

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    I'd like to add on, for me, that if anyone sees any issue with my guides or knows of something I missed, bring it up to me either on the guide, in my thread, or by PM and I'll look it over for addition. I have three guides up now, with at LEAST one more coming in the next couple of months (Dread needed one). A decent class guide covers a ton of material, which is why so many people like making more focused entries. This means that it is very easy for me to have missed something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire
    Optimization stops being practical and starts being theoretical when your DPR is measured in Tarrasques instead of hit points
    My Guides:
    PsyBomb's Guides to the Akashic Mysteries (Now with all three classes!)
    Fear Itself: the Dread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novawurmson View Post
    Ugh. Tell me about it. My own guides are woefully out of date. Lemme see if I've got all the PoW and Akashic guides up.

    Edit: None of the Akashic guides were up? Well, at least that's fixed.

    Edit: Added the master list for PoW guides from Elricaltovilla.
    Anyone up for doing an updated Magus Arcana Handbook? :3

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    I just wanted to point out that I have been using this thread as my go two guide for guides for about a year now.

    Great work fellas!

    Edit:

    Also Bodhi’s Guide to the Optimal Paladin & Antipaladin has moved.
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    Into the Darkness: A Guide to the Nightblade

    A guide I just recently made for the Nightblade, a third-party class available on the SRD. Check it out; it's better-designed than a lot of Paizo's stuff.
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    Dread guide is up. Link in my sig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire
    Optimization stops being practical and starts being theoretical when your DPR is measured in Tarrasques instead of hit points
    My Guides:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Wizard View Post
    Overall good work.
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    I would argue that Barbarians qualify for Extra Rage Power feat, and Paladins qualify for Extra Mercy feat, Maguses can take Extra Arcana etc...
    Reasons:
    * Doesn't say they don't qualify
    * They qualify for other class-feature related feats > Extra Rage Rounds, Extra Lay on Hands, etc...
    * The only features that do get a "don't qualify" are Extra Revelations and Extra Hexes, both for very abuse-able reasons (cheery picked Revelations can be quite strong, Hexes are 'at will').

    Likewise, the you don't need to "assume" that the Sorcerer doesn't grant the Arcana, because it does not say that it does. You also don't get the bonus Class Skill.

    Cavalier section should have a mention of Paladin+Order of the Star. While the Challenge bonus is a bit redundant (bonus to all Saves), the 1st Order power is solid. 1/2 of your level gets stacked onto your Paladin/Cleric level for Lay on Hands and Channeling power.

    Gunslinger: The Exotic Weapon Prof for Firearms already covers ALL Firearms. 1st ability is exactly equal to a feat (possibly worse if Guns are not considered Rare for the game).
    The Gunsmithing ability is _slightly_ better than a feat, as you get the Gunsmith Class Feature, not the Gunsmithing feat. Key difference being that the ability grants you a Battered Firearm of your choice. Granted, by level 7 you should be able to afford a Firearm anyway, and level 7 is pretty darn late to be getting something you want right away, but this is 'technically' better than just a feat.

    Oracles, should note that not all Revelations are available (some only allow picking from 7 of the Revelations, others do go up to the full 10).

    Wouldn't both with "gets better as new content is released" reminders. For Oracles this is kind of pointless, as you don't even have access to all of the current Mysteries. With other classes this is kind of a given assumption.

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    "Slow" progression is different than "delayed" progression. To me "slow" implies that the bonuses accumulate at a reduced rate > "1/2 character level". "Delayed" implies to me that there is an effective level penalty "character level -4".


    Summoner...is pretty horrible. You get 1/day use of Summon Monster with ROUNDS duration at level 3
    Eidolon runs off of the Summon Monster uses.
    11th level bonus is 3 total, not plus 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Wizard View Post
    Monk multiclass would probably be useful for a ninja. In particular they can use that bonus ki better than anyone else.

    Edit: now that I think about it, I don't know if the ki gained from Monk multiclass would stack with the ki from Ninja. If not, probably not worth it, though a Rogue could take Monk multiclass and snag ninja tricks that use ki. You'd want to trade out Evasion though.
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