New OOTS products from CafePress
New OOTS t-shirts, ornaments, mugs, bags, and more
Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. - Top - End - #1
    Troll in the Playground
     
    SangoProduction's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Gender
    Male

    Default Bypassing poison immunity?

    Most things without a Con score ignore poisons basically entirely as a side effect. Some more are specifically immune to poisons (maybe they have some levels of paladin, though that might be a win for us over all).

    Is there any way to ignore immunities to poison?

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    NecromancerGirl

    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Chania, Greece
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Bypassing poison immunity?

    Gating Serrtous, the Elder evil is a little extreme so some more mundane solutions are:
    Positoxins from Libris Mortis work against undead.
    Ravages and afflictions in Exalted deeds bypass poison immunity of evil creatures, but consult your DM if they are actually poisons or "totally not poisons".
    Some individual poisons bypass poison immunity but generally they are not worth it. Vile Darkness has 2 of them IIRC.

    Complete Shadow Magic! for Pathfinder Rules. (Google Docs PDF)
    Newest: Shadowcaster Archetypes
    WIP:Wordcasting Shadowcaster

    Previous games: Life in Hell
    as Moira

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Titan in the Playground
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Bypassing poison immunity?

    I don't know of any all-purpose methods in printed 1st party material (short of, as peacenlove indicated, palling around with Sertrous or using Sarrukh-level cheese to copy Sertrous's Poisoner's Breath ability), which is one of many reasons why going poison-heavy isn't really an optimal idea as a PC. Unfortunate, really, because it's a neat concept.
    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Roc View Post
    Gentlefolk, learn from Zaq's example, and his suffering. Remember, seven out of eleven players who use truenamer lose their ability to taste ice cream.
    My compiled Iron Chef stuff!

    ~ Gay all day, queer all year ~

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Nov 2008

    Default Re: Bypassing poison immunity?

    If you're playing Pathfinder, a level 8 Alchemist can select the Celestial Poisons discovery, which causes any poison they administer to a weapon to bypass the innate immunity to poisons of Undead and Outsiders. The target's other resistances may still make it immune to the effects of the poison, but the poison itself will work.

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Crake's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2011

    Default Re: Bypassing poison immunity?

    Quote Originally Posted by SangoProduction View Post
    Most things without a Con score ignore poisons basically entirely as a side effect. Some more are specifically immune to poisons (maybe they have some levels of paladin, though that might be a win for us over all).

    Is there any way to ignore immunities to poison?
    Paladins are immune to diseases, not poisons
    World of Madius wiki - My personal campaign setting, including my homebrew Optional Gestalt/LA rules.
    The new Quick Vestige List

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazyan View Post
    Playing a wizard the way GitP says wizards should be played requires the equivalent time and effort investment of a university minor. Do you really want to go down this rabbit hole, or are you comfortable with just throwing a souped-up Orb of Fire at the thing?
    Quote Originally Posted by atemu1234 View Post
    Humans are rarely truly irrational, just wrong.

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    Bohandas's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2016

    Default Re: Bypassing poison immunity?

    The SRD's section on poison says:

    "Oozes, plants, and certain kinds of outsiders are also immune to poison, although conceivably special poisons could be concocted specifically to harm them."

    I cannot seem to find this statement in the core rulebooks though
    Last edited by Bohandas; 2017-08-20 at 09:46 PM.
    "If you want to understand biology don't think about vibrant throbbing gels and oozes, think about information technology" -Richard Dawkins

    Omegaupdate Forum

    WoTC Forums Archive + Indexing Projext

    PostImage, a free and sensible alternative to Photobucket

    Temple+ Modding Project for Atari's Temple of Elemental Evil

    Morrus' RPG Forum (EN World v2)

  7. - Top - End - #7
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Crake's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2011

    Default Re: Bypassing poison immunity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bohandas View Post
    The SRD's section on poison says:

    "Oozes, plants, and certain kinds of outsiders are also immune to poison, although conceivably special poisons could be concocted specifically to harm them."

    I cannot seem to find this statement in the core rulebooks though
    That line does in fact exist in the core rulebooks, it's in the DMG's glossary, page 297 under "Poison Immunities". The full section says:

    Poison Immunities
    Wyverns, medusas, and other creatures with natural poison attacks are immune to their own poison. Nonliving creatures (constructs and undead) and creatures without metabolisms (such as elementals) are always immune to poison. Oozes, plants, and certain kinds of outsiders (such as tanar’ri) are also immune to poison, although conceivably special poisons could be concocted specifically to harm them.
    So in context, it's stating that creatures without metabolisms (ie: no con score) cannot be harmed by any poisons (though still are able to be affected by ravages and poxitoxins, since they aren't technically posions), but creatures with a con score like those mentioned could have special poisons crafted specifically to harm them, even if they're immune to traditional poisons.
    World of Madius wiki - My personal campaign setting, including my homebrew Optional Gestalt/LA rules.
    The new Quick Vestige List

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazyan View Post
    Playing a wizard the way GitP says wizards should be played requires the equivalent time and effort investment of a university minor. Do you really want to go down this rabbit hole, or are you comfortable with just throwing a souped-up Orb of Fire at the thing?
    Quote Originally Posted by atemu1234 View Post
    Humans are rarely truly irrational, just wrong.

  8. - Top - End - #8
    Troll in the Playground
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Bypassing poison immunity?

    Spark of Life (Cleric 3/Druid 4) eliminates poison immunity for Undead.

    Greater Humanoid Essence (Artificer 6/Cleric 7) eliminated poison immunity for constructs.

    (both are SR:Yes Will-negates spells)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •