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    Damn V. You did a bad bad thing. I suppose saving the world will help make up for it. But damn.
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    Well, looks like illusions weren't their only weapon.
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    Now that's what we call despair.

    I wonder, did that trap kill Vaarsuvius or just confine him/her? If it was fatal, it would be a great opportunity for the IFCC to act on their bargain now.
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    Well, that's one way to gain perspective...
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    Damn. Seeing V cry like that felt so ... raw. He's shown vulnerability before, but nothing like that.

    On another note, does anyone else think the title also applies to the trap in the last panel?

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    I hadn't thought of that...

    On the upside, this does give us a firmer grasp of the effects of the familicide spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMS Oceanic View Post
    I wonder, did that trap kill Vaarsuvius or just confine him/her?
    Doesn't look fatal to me, as the trapdoor sprung open in time to prevent Vaarsuvius and the raven being crushed to death. They are just trapped below the floor now.

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    Vaarsuvius more than anything right now, needs a hug. A big big hug of consolation.
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    I'm still Not clear in how exactlY Familicide Works...so it Wohle habe Killed a Child of penelope ans Tarquin (ans that. Childs children), but Not Tarquin? Or is this One of Thies situations where the characters themaelves also don't have all the Information?

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    did anyone predict V running away? I saw much speculating about V confessing or V keeping shut, but this?
    I didn't, but in retrospective, it should have been expected. remember when V hat one spell left back during the siege of azure city? ^^
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    I'm strongly hoping that V survives this and can find redemption and forgiveness.

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    Wow. That trap is a bit oddly designed. You would have expected to either crush V dead, or land her in the pit. But this way, it seems overbuilt to me.

    Or was the trapdoor simply activated by someone who heard V talk to himself? Someone who's name starts with G?

    Also: answers to all the big F questions. No need to speculate about that from now on.

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    I expected her to freak out.
    I'm glad that V is accepting the responsibility for her act, not telling herself "it wasn't my fault, I was under evil influence", or something like that.

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    Damn, thats epic level spellcasting alright. That spell is like the hand of god, striking from the heavens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaarsuvius
    "My deed has no justification, no excuse."
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    And that should put an end to the Familicide mega thread ;).

    Also a great way to share Vs feelings and at the same time keeping hir from falling into a complete depression by distracting hir ^^

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    Again, this clears things up. Also, V has a conscience. And... the wizard is out again. What a masterful mess!

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    Holy shnizz.

    On a lighter note, I love the sound effects for the trap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyavar View Post
    Wow. That trap is a bit oddly designed. You would have expected to either crush V dead, or land her in the pit. But this way, it seems overbuilt to me.
    It seems designed to definitely put an intruder *into* the pit -- no jumping aside as the pit opens beneath, due to a block of stone already on its way down.

    I'm guessing anyone who penetrated this building was supposed to be captured for questioning (and assumed to be tough/high level enough to survive the block).

    And, so begins the long, slow redemption of V...

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    Anyone getting the impression V knew the trap was there and stepped on it deliberately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lehmann View Post
    And, so begins the long, slow redemption of V...
    Lord, I hope not. V said it hirself. No justification. No excuse.

    Besides, V's gotta pay for all this, after all. I'm hoping for fiend-control, confessions, V being kicked out of the order (and hopefully killed), something nice like that.
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    Wow, that IS an EPIC spell !

    So if Penelope had a child with Tarquin, the child would have been killed, and as Tarquin share blood with the child, he would have been killed, and Elan too because he is Tarquin's Son ...

    So, V was close to kill Elan O_o !

    EDIT: sorry mispelled Tarquin
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    So Familicide did jump to all of the spouses of the Draketooths. Wow. V not only genocided 1/4 of the BD population, he also killed hundreds of innocent people.

    I guess he appears to be repentant though?

    I wonder if the devas in the afterlife will give him a second chance? I'm not sure I would
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turanar View Post
    Wow, that IS an EPIC spell !

    So if Penelope had a child with Tarkin, the child would have been killed, and as Tarkin share blood with the child, he would have been killed, and Elan too because he is Tarkin's Son ...

    So, V was close to kill Elan O_o !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Miel View Post
    Anyone getting the impression V knew the trap was there and stepped on it deliberately?
    Um no, she's clearly surprised when she hears the click.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyavar View Post
    Wow. That trap is a bit oddly designed. You would have expected to either crush V dead, or land her in the pit. But this way, it seems overbuilt to me.
    It was probably designed to be paired with illusions. Make the victims team mates think he's dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniknightJohn View Post
    I wonder if the devas in the afterlife will give him a second chance? I'm not sure I would
    I sure as hell wouldn't. There'd be a lot of celestial laughter from me (if I was a Deva) before condemning V to hell though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeppio View Post
    Lord, I hope not. V said it hirself. No justification. No excuse.

    Besides, V's gotta pay for all this, after all. I'm hoping for fiend-control, confessions, V being kicked out of the order (and hopefully killed), something nice like that.
    I don't think you understand the word "redemption".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daywalker1983 View Post
    I'm still Not clear in how exactlY Familicide Works...so it Wohle habe Killed a Child of penelope ans Tarquin (ans that. Childs children), but Not Tarquin? Or is this One of Thies situations where the characters themaelves also don't have all the Information?
    The Familicide killed all creatures who were relatives of the black dragon and all creatures who were relatives of any of those creatures (even if they weren't related to the black dragon). So Tarquin wouldn't have been killed if he and Penelope had a child, because he would be only related to their child, not to its half-sibling, which was the one directly related to the black dragon.

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