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    Question iPhone vs Android

    Hello my fellow playgrounders, I am not the most tech savvy of people in the world, and in the near future I have the possibility of getting a smart phone. And I of course want the one that will be best for me. I will mainly be using it for normal phone uses as well as an organizational tool and alarm. Apps are sort of secondary for me unless if they have a more practical use as I do not want to end up spending countless hours playing random games on my phone. So I turn to you guys for advice on which one I should get.

    Thank you in advance.
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    iPhone tends to be better optimized and has better customer service, but you have to deal with iTunes and Apple's other DRM BS

    Android makes it easier to download on the go, not capping the size of the downloads through the 3G (which is good or bad depending on your service) as well as better customization.

    I'm currently using Android, but both function as they need to.

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    When the iPhone was first released in Australia, I spent ages resisting the desire to purchase one due to the cost - what do I need with a smart phone when my standard one can make and receive calls and texts?

    Eventually, the desire to purchase one became a necessity. Not an iPhone in particular, but a smartphone which could perform certain functions was required. After doing the research, the iPhone was definitely the best option at the time.

    Upon receiving and using the iPhone for the first time, I was amazed and wondered why I delayed purchasing one for so long. It worked so well and I've never used a touch interface, before or after (except on later models), that was implemented so well.

    Since then, I've upgraded my phone. At the time of upgrade, I did my research again, and the new iPhone model was still the best one for my needs.

    Personally, from use of my phone, the sample phones I've used, and friends who have both iPhones and Android phones, I strongly recommend the iPhone. While any one phone may have a certain feature that is better than the iPhone has, none have the better complete package.


    P.S. One major difference is between the app store models. The iPhone app store is locked down to only apps that Apple approves and the Android store is open to anyone. Some people detest being told what they can and can't run by a central authority, but I personally don't mind as it makes the phone much more secure from malicious apps. The amount of malware poosing as legitimate apps for the Android is somewhat scary.

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    As long as you're not randomly downloading crap from totallynotvirusesweswear.com, you have nothing to worry about regarding Android malware.

    If you don't care about apps, I would actually recommend a Windows 7 Phone. The lack of apps is the platform's only major weakness, and the Metro interface is the first time someone has actually done anything new with icons since GUIs were invented.

    Also, both Android and WP7 have much cheaper alternatives than Apple's baby, with many more options when it comes to carriers and services that offer them.
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    Thank you for the help guys. I greatly appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    As long as you're not randomly downloading crap from totallynotvirusesweswear.com, you have nothing to worry about regarding Android malware.
    Not true. I was referring to apps sold in the official Android store run by Google.

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    This seems like a good place to ask, seeing as it has been making waves in the Android V iphone circles. What the Hell is Instigram? I'm told it's some sort of picture thing, but the best I could get out of my friends was that it had something to do with telegrams.

    After that, why is it a big thing that Android phones now have it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Zoot_ View Post
    This seems like a good place to ask, seeing as it has been making waves in the Android V iphone circles. What the Hell is Instigram? I'm told it's some sort of picture thing, but the best I could get out of my friends was that it had something to do with telegrams.

    After that, why is it a big thing that Android phones now have it?
    It takes photos, applies a filter, uploads them. It's now owned by Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    It takes photos, applies a filter ruins them, uploads them. It's now owned by Facebook.
    Fixed that for you :P

    Personally, I prefer android for the greater amount of flexibility it gives you. There's not a single thing about it you can't change in some way or another given the right tools and apps. It also has a greater range of free apps that are progressively competing with each other to become better. More competition than in the apple market place. Plus angry birds is free, unlike apple :P And it has a GBA emulator O:

    If you want something that you don't want to play around with and use more like a traditional phone for basic things, the iphone may be the way to go, but if you want to play around and customise it to your liking, an android phone is normally better.

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    From my (limited) observation, android phones offer you the flexibility of customising your phone, but those widgets and extra features supposedly suck battery life. Conversely, I am experiencing issues with my iphone where I will get cut off in the middle of a conversation from time to time (still too often for my liking).

    Do you want a phone that constantly gets cut off, or one with poor battery life?
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    I've owned two different iPhones and I loved them. They're well made and they always worked for me. Eventually I got sick of some of Apple's business practices and decided to get an Android phone. Now I have an LG Thrill. It is also well made and it has worked well for me. My point is that either way you go you can get a really good phone. The main differences I've noticed are the higher level of customization to Android phones and I enjoy having a bigger screen.
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    As a point of public service, if you've had an iPhone 4 for a while, they settled the lawsuit about the antennas, so you can get either $15 or a free case if you want. Here's an article with links to the settlement page.


    Back to the topic at hand, here's the comparison I would make. The iPhone is elegant. Things will work as you expect them to work, the interface is intuitive, various functions are generally easy to find, and everything will be pretty. In exchange, you're getting a very controlled environment that has to integrate with other Apple technology.

    Android phones are very good, with any single phone often beating the iPhone in some feature, such as having a larger screen, better speed, some convenient button etc. However, no single phone quite capture the desired user experience as well as the iPhone does, often simply from a clunky interface. For example, one friend I had bought an Android phone and couldn't figure out how to access the app store because it didn't have an "app store" button the way that an iPhone does.

    Personally, I own an iPhone and it has been wonderful (and terribly addictive ) since I got it.
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    Personally I prefer Android. I did a lot of comparisons before buying one, and other than iPhone having more apps available, it won or tied in every category.

    This probably has more to do with the actual brand/contract you get, but I can say I found their tech support to be better as well.

    Me and my cousin both had to replace our phones within the past 6 months. He has an iPhone (4 I think), I have a Droid X2. His had a bad screen, mine had microphone problems so I couldn't talk unless I used the speakerphone. Both were still under warranty.

    When his broke, it took 2 hours for him to convince Apple to send him a new (i.e. refurbished) one, as multiple technical support guys tried desperately to convince him that he was perfectly happy with a broken phone, and the warranty didn't say "Simon Says". They sent him a box, he used it to send them the phone, and almost two weeks later he got a new one. He was without a phone that whole time.

    Three months later when mine broke, it took less than half an hour before they agreed to send a new (again, actually refurbished) phone, they waived the $12 dollar fee to overnight it, and my new one actually came with the box to send the old one in, so I was never actually phoneless.

    Again, this is less about the operating system, and more about the particular contract I got, but I can tell you that Apple's tech support service is somewhat lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    Not true. I was referring to apps sold in the official Android store run by Google.
    Oh? I haven't heard of this. 'sides, there's not much an app can do without root access, which is a thing most people wouldn't be able to grant it even if they wanted to.

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    For example, one friend I had bought an Android phone and couldn't figure out how to access the app store because it didn't have an "app store" button the way that an iPhone does.
    You can pin the Google Play icon to the 5-icon tray that appears on every home screen. Or put it on any of the (up to...9?) home screens. But you don't have to.
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    I suggest the Windows 7/Android.

    Why? Well, it's not because I'm a fan of Google. (Or Microsoft) It's because I'm speaking on behalf of all my poor ex-colleagues in the Cellphone Customer Support when I say ; "No, the new iPhone is still just an iPhone. Yes, it costs 599.99 now that you're not getting a contract with it. Yes, that is the price. No, just because Apple releases another iPhone every six months doesn't mean you get one. No, I'm not discounting you. Have a nice day."
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    In my experience:

    Iphone Pros:

    Nicer looking apps.
    Nicer looking everything.
    Easier to use.
    On average more expensive apps BUT more useful.
    If you're a Graphic Designer/artist, get an iPhone. End of story. Developers assume Graphic Designers and art type people have iOS devices (iPhone, iPad, etc.) and so you'll find more apps there for you.


    Android Pros:
    Larger screen (on some models)
    Better phone hardware (on some models)
    Cheaper apps... but also cheaper looking/harder to use
    You can return apps if you only downloaded them a few minutes ago and get a full refund.
    More customization
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Oh? I haven't heard of this. 'sides, there's not much an app can do without root access, which is a thing most people wouldn't be able to grant it even if they wanted to.
    They can do a heck of a lot, and people tend to just grant them permissions they shouldn't because they don't know any better (why should your note taking program need access to your contacts and the internet?).

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    You can pin the Google Play icon to the 5-icon tray that appears on every home screen. Or put it on any of the (up to...9?) home screens. But you don't have to.
    That wasn't the point of what he said. The point was that the iPhone "just worked" and felt "right". With such a large range of Android devices, being released at different times, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a phone out there that can beat a particular feature of the iPhone. But many people, myself included, prefer the iPhone because it has a much better overall/complete package. The interface is part of that package.

    There are definitely good Android phones out there, and you won't be disappointed if you get a good one, but after investigating all the options, the iPhone has always been the best option for me and is the option I'd recommend.

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    I suggest the Windows 7/Android.

    Why? Well, it's not because I'm a fan of Google. (Or Microsoft) It's because I'm speaking on behalf of all my poor ex-colleagues in the Cellphone Customer Support when I say ; "No, the new iPhone is still just an iPhone. Yes, it costs 599.99 now that you're not getting a contract with it. Yes, that is the price. No, just because Apple releases another iPhone every six months doesn't mean you get one. No, I'm not discounting you. Have a nice day."
    First, I fail to see what that has to do with anything. All companies release new phones all the time. Second, the new phones have been 12 months or 18 months, not 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shivore View Post
    If you're a Graphic Designer/artist, get an iPhone. End of story. Developers assume Graphic Designers and art type people have iOS devices (iPhone, iPad, etc.) and so you'll find more apps there for you.
    A smartphone or tablet is not a creator's tool. What apps could a graphic designer possibly need that real software on an actual computer can't provide better?
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    I don't understand this idea that Android phones are supposed to be so difficult to use. They're really not. I'd say the time it took me to figure out my first iPhone and the time it took me to figure out my first Android phone were about the same. My boyfriend's mom got an Android as her first smart phone and she isn't a very techy person but she took to it very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiani View Post
    I don't understand this idea that Android phones are supposed to be so difficult to use. They're really not. I'd say the time it took me to figure out my first iPhone and the time it took me to figure out my first Android phone were about the same. My boyfriend's mom got an Android as her first smart phone and she isn't a very techy person but she took to it very quickly.
    No one here has said that Android phones are difficult to use, just that in their experience the interface of the iPhone has been better.

    As for the interface of Android phones, well, that varies immensely from phone to phone. Some of them are... far less usable than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    No one here has said that Android phones are difficult to use, just that in their experience the interface of the iPhone has been better.

    As for the interface of Android phones, well, that varies immensely from phone to phone. Some of them are... far less usable than others.
    You're right that no one here has really called Android phones difficult to use but I've seen that said so often on the internet that I jumped the gun a bit. My apologies.
    Personally I like the look of my Android interface better because I always felt like my iPhone screen looked so cluttered with apps. I know you can put them into folders but that's kind of ugly too.
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    The alterations made by individual manufacturers to stock Android are not usually very extreme and can be removed with a moderate amount of effort anyway.
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    I'm a past Droid owner for 2+ years and an iPhone 4S owner of a couple months now, and I'd say the similarities are like Windows XP (Droid) to Windows 7 (iPhone): Apple appears more streamlined and user-friendly on the surface, plus it plays well with its own kind. If you want more power and flexibility to tinker and have control, though, I'd stick with Android.

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    I did a bit of research before buying the iPhone 4s. Once I had it, I found it very easy to use and to get what I want out of it. I already had iTunes and when I plugged the iPhone into my computer it automatically added everything from iTunes to the iPhone. There's another thing I have found out. Apple sends out updates, all the updates will transfer to my phone with no problems (or very few problems, all of them have worked perfectly so far). A fellow coworker's daughter has an Android phone. The latest update for that phone killed it off and the only way to solve the problem was to get a new smart phone.
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    I have an Android but would suggest that you use whatever is comfortable for you . if you like apple products and already have an iPod/iTunes then go for that if only to be able to use your phone as an iPod without too much greif.
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    There are a couple of ways of making Android talk to iTunes, but obviously they aren't as simple as just plugging it in.

    As for updates killing phones - they can't. There's nothing that even a complete ROM reflash can do to your phone that can't be solved at the recovery level. It does, however, take a little bit of knowledge to understand what that sentence even means, though.
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    Even the support people or the shop couldn't fix the phone and told her she had to get a new one. My coworker is a computer person and knows a bit about it.

    I really like my iPhone, my brother likes his Android. In the end it's a matter of personal preference.
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    That's because the support people either don't know or aren't allowed to tell you about Clockwork Mod.
    Huh? I'm pretty sure most newer Android phones can do all that out of the box. Even email to text is possible with some tinkering.
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    What? CWM is a recovery mode. You must be confusing it with custom ROMs, for the installation of which it's required, or perhaps rooting, to which is isn't related at all.
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