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    I've seen a couple classes up on this forum lately that I like, and that I think would have interesting bloodlines. Hence, I've decided to homebrew these bloodlines, a la Welknair-style. Any and all PEACHing/comments are welcome. Enjoy!

    Anomaly[Chronoshifter]
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    Sometimes a creature is unusually marked by some kind of disruption concerning time or the wielding of it. Some people who could have been Chronoshifters never gain full control of their time-bending abilities. Other times, a creature that should have been erased by a time shift, or more on the opposite scale, should have never existed in the first place, survives and manages to have children marked by the time-warping nature of their ancestor. These are all individuals with the Anomaly bloodline.

    {table=head] Level |
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    Intermediate
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    Major

    1 | | |Knowledge(History) +2
    2 | |Knowledge(History) +2 | Chronoshift-1st, Shift Points 2
    3 | | | Wisdom +1
    4 |Knowledge(History) +2 |Chronoshift-1st, Shift Points 2 |See Ahead
    5 | | |Time Affinity +2
    6 | |Wisdom +1 | Chronoshift-1st, Shift Points 4
    7 | | |Knowledge(The Planes) +2
    8 |Chronoshift-1st, Shift Points 2 |See Ahead | Timebend-Speed/Slow
    9 | | | Dexterity +1
    10 | |Time Affinity +2 | Chronoshift-2nd, Shift Points 6
    11 | | | Time Affinity +4
    12 |Wisdom +1 |Chronoshift-1st, Shift Points 4| Timebend-Precognition
    13 | | | Spot +2
    14 | |Knowledge(The Planes) +2 | Chronoshift-2nd, Shift Points 9
    15 | | | Constitution +1
    16 |See Ahead |Timebend-Speed/Slow| Timebend-Didn't Happen
    17 | | | Affinity +6
    18 | |Dexterity +1 | Chronoshift-3rd, Shift Points 12
    19 | | | Sleight of Hand +2
    20 |Time Affinity +2 | Chronoshift-2nd, Shift Points 6 | Timelord's Descendant
    [/table]

    Chronoshifts:
    At the levels designated above, the Anomaly gains knowledge of one Chronoshift of appropriate level. He must expend Shift Points equal to the level of the Chronoshift in order to cast it, and must make a Will Save of DC equal to 5 + twice the Chronoshift's level + the number of Chronoshifts cast in the last minute. Should the Anomaly succeed on the save, nothing happens. Should they fail the save, however, they are subject to an effect known as a "warp" as listed in each Chronoshift's description. Immunities or other resistances an Anomaly has do not apply to warps. The DC of any saves for the effects of Chronoshifts is equal to 11 + Chronoshift level + Wisdom modifier + number of Chronoshifts used in the last minute.

    Shift Points: The Anomaly gains Shift Points as listed above. Additionally, they may regain a number of Shift Points equal to 1/16, 1/8, or 1/5 their level depending on bloodline strength, by concentrating for 5 minutes.

    See Ahead: While not as good at it as a Chronoshifter, the Anomaly can look ahead to the future to guard against threats. For a number of times per day equal to 1/8, 1/4, or 1/2 their level depending on bloodline strength, they may gain a +1 bonus to AC until their next turn as a swift action.

    Time Affinity: An Anomaly is good with those who examine time. The Anomaly gains the listed bonus to social interaction checks involving individuals who may use Chronoshifts or have maximum ranks in Knowledge(History).

    Timebend: While not as good at manipulating time as experts, an Anomaly can still manipulate time like few others can, and gains the abilities below as listed on the table above.

    Speed/Slow: You can speed time in order to make your enemy sloppy or to give your allies more time to do what they need to do. You may expend any number of Shift Points that do not exceed 1/2 your Shift Point pool in order to either inflict a penalty equal to the number spent to a single skill or attack roll your enemy makes, or to increase a single attack or skill roll by the amount of Shift Points spent. Additionally, should the Anomaly be willing to expend an additional Shift Point that does not count towards the bonus granted by this ability, rolls enhanced this way do not automatically fail when a 1 is rolled.

    Precognition: You can enhance your See Ahead ability more. Whenever you use your See Ahead ability, you may expend Shift Points in order to increase the bonus to AC for every two Shift Points spent, and to increase the duration by 1 round for every three Shift Points spent. You may not expend more than 1/2 your Shift Point pool on a single use of this ability.

    Didn't Happen: You can erase actions from reality. As an immediate action, you may expend Shift Points in order to undo the effects of a single action. Undoing a swift action requires 1 Shift Point, undoing a move action requires 3 Shift Points, undoing a standard action requires 6, and undoing a whole round's worth of actions for a single target requires 9. Shift Points spent this way may not be recovered until the Anomaly has had a full 8 hours of rest, even if the Anomaly would not normally need to rest.

    Timelord's Descendant:
    That's right, you're the descendant of creatures who have denied and/or manipulated the flow of time. So, of course you get a few benefits out of it. You may once per day remove three Shift Points from the cost of a Chronoshift, which may be distributed amongst multiple uses(ex. reduce a 2nd level Chronoshift's cost by 1, then reduce a 3rd level Chronoshift's cost by 2). Also, select one 4th level Chronoshift. You may use this Chronoshift 1/day as a normal Chronoshift, and its cost may not be reduced by this ability's Shift Point reduction effect.

    Special: Some of the individuals that have the Anomaly bloodline decide to embrace their powers and the path of the Chronoshifter. Should an Anomaly take a level in Chronoshifter, they lose all the benefits of this bloodline and bloodline levels taken for it, and add a number of Chronoshifter levels equal to the number of bloodline levels you took for this bloodline.



    Exile[Pariah]
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    Sometimes, a creature from the Far Realm or some other place outside of reality forces their way into the Material Plane. On most occasions, this will result in the creature being forced to assume mortal form,resulting in a Pariah. Sometimes, the creature will shatter upon the impact of the metaphysical equivalent of a crash landing, with the shards merging with individuals, often infants due to their vulnerability to possession, across the entire plane, creating "children" of that creature in the loosest sense of the word. Other times, a Pariah will mate with a mortal, giving birth to a bloodline that possesses a not-quite-earthly quality in the worst sense of the word. These individuals are known as Exiles.

    {table=head] Level |
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    Intermediate
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    Major

    1 | | | Disguise +2
    2 | | Disguise +2 | Blemish
    3 | | | Constitution +1
    4 | Disguise +2 | Blemish | In The Details
    5 | | |Outcast Affinity +2
    6 | | Constitution +1 | Blemish
    7 | | | Knowledge(The Planes) +2
    8 |Blemish | In The Details |Ancestor's Presence(Harmful Blows)
    9 | | | Charisma +1
    10 | |Outcast Affinity +2 | Blemish
    11 | | |Outcast Affinity +4
    12 | Constitution +1 | Blemish |Eldritch Charm
    13 | | | Hide +2
    14 | |Knowledge(The Planes) +2 | Blemish
    15 | | | Wisdom +1
    16 |In The Details|Ancestor's Presence(Harmful Blows)| Ancestor's Presence(Cannot Hide)
    17 | | |Outcast Affinity +6
    18 | | Charisma +1 | Blemish
    19 | | | Move Silently +2
    20 |Outcast Affinity +2 | Blemish | Outcast Epitome
    [/table]

    Blemish: At the levels listed above, the Exile gains a Blemish. The Exile treats their Warp Level as being equal to 1/8, 1/4, or 1/2 their level, depending on bloodline strength. All Blemishes known are active, except when the Exile decides to suppress them. After all, most mortals can't handle most things that are a little bit odd, not to mention the Exile's oddness. The Exile may suppress Blemishes, making them not visible, but at the cost of not benefiting from them when suppressed. It takes a full minute to suppress a Blemish, and a full-round action to regain all suppressed Blemishes.

    In The Details: It's often said that the Devil is in the details. Exiles tend to disagree. After all, they know that the insanity-causing madness of the Far Realms lies in their own details. Whenever the Exile has at least one Blemish active, whenever a creature first looks at them, they must make a Will save with a DC equal to 10 + 1/8, 1/4, or 1/2 their level, depending on bloodline strength, or be Shaken for the next round. This effect may be renewed by the Exile using one of their Blemish's abilities in front of a target that has already been affected by this ability, forcing them to make another Will save or be shaken for another round.

    Outcast Affinity:
    You tend to get along better with other creatures that share origins outside reality. You gain a bonus to social interaction rolls involving creatures with the Outcast class ability, can use Blemishes, or are from the Far Realm(note: Not all Aberration type creatures are from the Far Realm) as listed on the table above.

    Ancestor's Presence: The Exile is the child of a creature that has forced its way into our reality from the Far Realm. As such, for a limited amount of time per day, the Exile may enhance their body with energy from the Far Realm, although they cannot keep up this flow of energy for as long as their ancestor could. The Exile may use Outcast Presence as noted on the table above, except its effects are only active for a number of rounds per day equal to 1/4 or 1/2 your level + your Constitution modifier. These rounds need not be consecutive.

    Eldritch Charm: You know how easy mortals can be to manipulate, an instinct that lies in your blood. You gain a bonus equal to 1/2 your Outcast Affinity bonus on all Bluff, Intimidate, and Sense Motive checks. Once per day per 5 levels, you may add 1/2 your Warp to a single Bluff, Intimidate, or Sense Motive check.

    Outcast Epitome:
    You come into your bizarre heritage's abilities. You may enter a trance where you temporarily let your alien side rule your body. When under the effects of this trance, you constantly benefit from Ancestor's Presence without affecting the time you can spend in that state, benefit from the Offended Senses class ability as though you were a Pariah of 1/2 your level, and are treated as being under the effect granted by the Normal Presence class ability. You may enter this state a number of rounds per day equal to 1/2 your level. These rounds need not be spent consecutively.

    Special: Sometimes an Exile's alien side grows to the point where they become on-par with a Pariah. Should an Exile take a level in Pariah, they lose all the benefits of this bloodline and bloodline levels taken for it, and add a number of Pariah levels equal to the number of bloodline levels you took for this bloodline.



    Mahou Shonen[Magical Girl]
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    Most know of Magical Girls, the female protectors of all that is good and wholesome. These girls often grow up, and continue the tradition with their children, who are almost always female. Almost being the keyword. Sometimes a Magical Girl will give birth to a boy, who will still manifest the powers of a Magical Girl, albeit reduced. These individuals are the Mahou Shonen.

    {table=head] Level |
    Minor
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    Intermediate
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    Major

    1 | | |Diplomacy +2
    2 | |Diplomacy +2 | Device, Dude Looks Like a Lady, Costume(Basic)
    3 | | |Charisma +1
    4 |Diplomacy +2 | Device, Dude Looks Like a Lady, Costume(Basic)| Illuminations(1st)
    5 | | |Mahou Affinity +2
    6 | | Charisma +1 | Costume(1 CP, +1)
    7 | | |Use Magic Device +2
    8 |Device, Dude Looks Like a Lady, Costume(Basic) | Illuminations(1st) | Illumination(1st)
    9 | | | Constitution +1
    10 | |Mahou Affinity +2 | Costume(2 CP), No Fear
    11 | | |Mahou Affinity +4
    12 | Charisma +1 | Costume(1 CP, +1) | Illumination(2nd)
    13 | | | Heal +2
    14 | |Use Magic Device +2 | Men Perservere, Costume(3 CP)
    15 | | |Wis +1
    16 |Illuminations(1st)|Illumination(1st) | Illumination(2nd)
    17 | | |Mahou Affinity +6
    18 | |Constitution +1 |Costume(4 CP, +2), Device-Limit Form
    19 | | |Disguise +2
    20 |Mahou Affinity +2 | Costume(2 CP), No Fear| Mahou-est Shonen
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    Device: The Mahou Shonen is descended from a Magical Girl, and gains the power of one, gaining a Device, as per the Magical Girl class feature.

    Dude Looks Like a Lady: The powers you've gotten were meant for a girl, but it seems like the universe will just settle for you looking like one. You look like a girly man at best, most Mahou Shonen looking like a girl dressed in guys' clothes. You must attempt a Disguise check DC 15 + 2, 4, or 6, depending on bloodline strength, in order to look androgynous, as few Mahou Shonen ever get the chance to look manly. You may add 5 to the DC of the check in order to barely look like a man.

    Costume: Your momma wore one, so it's good enough for you! You gain a costume, like the Magical Girl class feature, which progresses as per the table above. However, at first, the costume is only good for looks, and when you first get it, confers no benefit other than that of being armor. The costume is always girly, and you always look like a girl when wearing it.

    Illuminations: You learn how to wield the same powers as your mother did. You gain two Illuminations of the listed level each time Illuminations is listed on the table above. You may only prepare a number of Illuminations of each level equal to 1/2 of the number of Illuminations known for that level. You gain a mote pool equal to 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 their level + your Charisma modifier, and start off each encounter with a number of motes equal to 1/2 your mote pool maximum - 1(minimum 1). You may generate motes once every two turns by spending a swift action to generate the mote.

    Mahou Affinity: Mahou Shonen get along with allies of justice, and do draw their share of unfair attention from other guys. The Mahou Shonen gains the listed bonus to social interactions involving Mahou Shoujo, Mahou Shonen, and men in general.

    No Fear: Mahou Shoujo(and manly men! Which you are despite not looking like one) are known for not fleeing when scared. You do not flee or cower when exposed to fear effects, and gain a +2 bonus to saves against fear effects. Additionally, once per day, you may ignore the results of a failed save against a fear effect and treat the roll as though you were successful.

    Men Perservere: Men(like you! That's right, you're still a guy! Even if you prance around in a frilly outfit to fight evil....) keep going. A number of times per day equal to 2 + your Charisma modifier, when you make a save against a Will or Fortitude effect that would allow for a reduced effect upon a save, you may instead choose not to be affected at all. Alternatively, when failing a Fortitude save, you may choose to be affected by a reduced effect provided the effect has one. The second use of this ability expends two uses of this ability.

    Device-Limit Form: You can push your Device to the manly max(or at least the manliest you can get). You may transform your Device into Limit Form like a Magical Girl, except you may use Illuminations when it is active, and must spend a swift action each turn to maintain Limit Form.

    Mahou-est Shonen: You're the manliest magical girl around! In fact, you've gotten so comfortable with your power, you sometimes almost feel comfortable wearing an outfit with five times more lace than the average shoe!....Oh, yeah, and attained the most magical power that a man can. Select two 3rd level Illuminations. Once per day, you may use one of these Illuminations, after which you may not use 3rd level Illuminations again until the next day. Also, you gain a bonus to AC when wearing your costume equal to your Constitution modifier, and your Mote pool increases by one.

    Special:
    Sometimes, a Mahou Shonen can embrace the full power of a Magical Girl, although few of those who can even want to. But if they do, should an Mahou Shonen take a level in Magical Girl, they lose all the benefits of this bloodline, excepting Dude Looks Like a Lady and bloodline levels taken for it, and add a number of Magical Girl levels equal to the number of bloodline levels you took for this bloodline.

    Note: This can just as easily be re-fluffed for girls, as Magical Girls who didn't take on their full power. Just call it the Mahou Mahou and remove the Dude Looks Like a Lady ability.
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    I'm honored.

    I haven't that much experience with bloodlines, but the chronoshifter line looks cool and fairly good.

    He must expend Shift Points equal to the level of the Chronoshift in order to cast it, and must make a Will Save of DC equal to 5 + twice the Chronoshift's level + the number of Chronoshifts cast in the last minute. The DC of any saves for the effects of Chronoshifts is equal to 11 + Chronoshift level + Wisdom modifier + number of Chronoshifts used in the last minute.
    You should probably elaborate on what happens if you fail the Will save.
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    The Exile should have a Warp of 1/8th, 1/4th, and 1/2 their character level, depending on the strength of the bloodline, for simplicity.

    Otherwise, I like 'em; I laughed a bit at the Mahou Shonen...
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    Yeah, the fluff-part of the Magical Girl bloodline is....well i dont know what to say.

    Mechanically, you can gain most of that stuff with a simple 2-level dip into Magical Girl. Especially Device and Costume, who do very little on their own (other than making it easier to conceal, carry and don your weapon and armor) without costume points.

    Now i don't know much about Bloodline-design, but you gain more by taking one level in Magical Girl than one level in this Bloodline. You get a Device right away, and you gain full access to 1st-level Illuminations and a Mote pool that regenerates on its own. You also get 4 skill points and a D8 HD, instead of pseudo-level adjustment. You also gain the ability to do non-lethal damage with all your attacks, which is quite valuable in some situations.
    So you gain all of what you'd get by the bloodline, except the small skill bonus (which you get instead of skill points) and the +1 to charisma.

    Two levels are slightly better.
    You gain two costume points, an extra +1 charisma and constitution and +2 to fear. You still loose a self-regenerating mote pool, merciful (!), 2 D8 HD and 8+ skill points.

    Three levels are actually decent.
    You gain 4 costume points (and a limit of 2), 2nd-level Illuminations, +1 to Con, Cha and Wis (though you wrote a +2 for con there), a bonus against fear, pseudo-mettle and Limit Form. You stil lose a self-regenerating mote pool, merficul (!), Radiant Focus, Power of Friendship, 3D8 HD and 12+ skill points.


    I would actually make the mote-pool regenerate one point per round ont its own. Otherwise it's of very little value. I would add Merficul, because its really iconic for Magical Girls. I would give out device, costume and costume points earlier - something has to make up for the list HP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serafina View Post
    Yeah, the fluff-part of the Magical Girl bloodline is....well i dont know what to say.

    Mechanically, you can gain most of that stuff with a simple 2-level dip into Magical Girl. Especially Device and Costume, who do very little on their own (other than making it easier to conceal, carry and don your weapon and armor) without costume points.

    Now i don't know much about Bloodline-design, but you gain more by taking one level in Magical Girl than one level in this Bloodline. You get a Device right away, and you gain full access to 1st-level Illuminations and a Mote pool that regenerates on its own. You also get 4 skill points and a D8 HD, instead of pseudo-level adjustment. You also gain the ability to do non-lethal damage with all your attacks, which is quite valuable in some situations.
    So you gain all of what you'd get by the bloodline, except the small skill bonus (which you get instead of skill points) and the +1 to charisma.

    Two levels are slightly better.
    You gain two costume points, an extra +1 charisma and constitution and +2 to fear. You still loose a self-regenerating mote pool, merciful (!), 2 D8 HD and 8+ skill points.

    Three levels are actually decent.
    You gain 4 costume points (and a limit of 2), 2nd-level Illuminations, +1 to Con, Cha and Wis (though you wrote a +2 for con there), a bonus against fear, pseudo-mettle and Limit Form. You stil lose a self-regenerating mote pool, merficul (!), Radiant Focus, Power of Friendship, 3D8 HD and 12+ skill points.


    I would actually make the mote-pool regenerate one point per round ont its own. Otherwise it's of very little value. I would add Merficul, because its really iconic for Magical Girls. I would give out device, costume and costume points earlier - something has to make up for the list HP!
    Bloodlines do not require a full 20 level investment.

    Minor Bloodlines give their advantages for a single level at level 12.
    Intermediate for two levels, at 6th and 12th.
    Major Bloodlines give their advantages for a level at 3, 6 and 12.

    Bloodline Levels, from the SRD:

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    A bloodline level grants no increase in base attack bonus or base save bonuses, no hit points or skill points, and no class features. It counts as a normal class level (with no class skills) for the purpose of determining maximum skill ranks. Levels of bloodline never result in XP penalties for multiclass characters.

    Include the character's bloodline level when calculating any character ability based on his class levels (such as caster level for spellcasting characters, or save DCs for characters with special abilities whose DCs are based on class level). The character doesn't gain any abilities, spells known, or spells per day from the addition of his bloodline levels, though—only the calculations of his level-based abilities are affected.

    If a character has levels in two or more classes in addition to his bloodline levels, each class gains the benefit of adding the bloodline levels when calculating abilities.

    For example, a 2nd-level sorcerer with a major bloodline takes a bloodline level when earns enough XP to advance in level. He is treated as a 3rd-level spellcaster for the purpose of spell durations, caster level checks, and so forth. But he doesn't gain a 3rd-level sorcerer's spells per day or spells known.

    Similarly, the stunning attacks of a 3rd-level monk with one bloodline level have a save DC equal to 12 (10 + one-half class level) plus her Wisdom modifier, since the bloodline level is treated as if it were a monk class level when calculating the save DC. A 3rd-level monk/3rd-level sorcerer with two bloodline levels would be treated as a 5th-level spellcaster and a 5th-level monk for determining level-based abilities.


    So the Major bloodline gives all those abilities to a level 20 character, at the cost of their losing three levels total over twenty, whilst gaining each of those abilities at each level.

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    On the balance of said Mahou Shonen
    - Note that by RAW supplied, taking a single level in Magical Girl immediately increases the character's level by up to 3.
    - Also note that taking the level in Magical Girl does not disqualify the character from still needing to take Bloodline levels they gain nothing for. Each time they do however, their ECL increases by 2 instead.

    So a level 1 character with a Major bloodline elects to take all three bloodline levels at once. They are now effectively level 4 (and have been carried by their party pretty hard).

    They take a level in Magical Girl, they are now level 7 as far as class abilities, skills and any other level related conditions are concerned, they have the abilities of a level 4 Magical Girl plus three Bloodline levels to determine the potency of that ability.

    Should that same character take a Magical girl level straight away, then they still need to purchase three empty levels for no benefit.
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    Bloodlines do not require a full 20 level investment.
    Yes, i am aware of that. Which is why i was comparing them to taking a level in Magical Girl instead, pointing out that just taking straight levels in them will do practically everything the bloodline does, and better to boot.
    Compared to that, other bloodlines that emulate classes tend to give substantially more than you can acquire by taking three levels in that class, which makes up for the loss of skill&hitpoints and BAB they bring.

    The ability to exchange bloodline-levels for Magical Girl levels is nifty, but not actually relevant to the power of the Bloodline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serafina View Post
    Yes, i am aware of that. Which is why i was comparing them to taking a level in Magical Girl instead, pointing out that just taking straight levels in them will do practically everything the bloodline does, and better to boot.
    Compared to that, other bloodlines that emulate classes tend to give substantially more than you can acquire by taking three levels in that class, which makes up for the loss of skill&hitpoints and BAB they bring.

    The ability to exchange bloodline-levels for Magical Girl levels is nifty, but not actually relevant to the power of the Bloodline.
    Note that it is not exchanging, by the wording, it is adding to; taking a Magical Girl level at level 20 gives you a level 23 character.

    3 levels in Magical Girl gives:

    +2 BAB,
    3D8 HP
    12 Skill points
    May deal non-lethal damage (no reason to if you're not a Magical Girl)
    1st level illuminations
    Costume +1
    Power of Friendship
    Radiant Focus more recovery.

    3 levels in Bloodlines gives:

    A +2 untyped bonus to Diplomacy, UMD, Heal, and Disguise - fewer skills, higher effective cap.

    +1 Charisma, +2 Constitution, +1 Wisdom

    +6 Bonus to all social interactions with men and magical girls.

    Level 3 Illumination 1 / day + Level 2 Illuminations.

    Fear save bonuses, and immunity to everything important about the fear checks.

    Costume & Device bonuses - Minor but never bad to have magical gear on demand that can't be confiscated.

    And, it's sort of cheesy, but this Bloodline actually qualifies for most of the Mahou-multiclass feats.

    Druid 17? One feat and you have the mote pool of a level 20 Magical Girl, level 3 illuminations.

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    Alright, changes made:

    Anomaly: Warp effects elaborated upon.

    Exile: Warp levels adjusted

    Mahou Shonen: Realized I accidentally put +2 instead of +1 for Constitution, so adjusted that.

    @Serafina: True, one can gain a bit more from one level of Magical Girl than one bloodline level, if you look at raw class features. However, there is the fact that a 1st level Magical Girl does not get a costume, and even if the Mahou Shonen's is lacking CP, that is still armor. In addition to that, there's a skill boost, slight ability boost, and a bonus to social interaction rolls, which can be handy. With bloodlines, the raw class features for minor bloodlines will usually be slightly weaker than one actual class feature.

    @Kholai: I got the idea for bloodline level to class level conversion from the Quisling, as the alternative would have been to impose a ban on a character with this bloodline from taking levels in the class associated with their bloodline, although this is only slightly better. For clarification, this is how it works. Say a 16th level character with a Mahou Shonen Major Bloodline, a Fighter 13/Mahou Shonen 3(to represent bloodline levels) decides to take a Magical Girl level when he levels up. Then, as a 17th level character, he becomes a Fighter 13/Magical Girl 4(1 level taken + 3 bloodline levels converted).
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    Default Re: [3.5 Bloodlines]Mommy Was a Magical Girl and Daddy Was An Abomination

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyromancer999 View Post
    @Kholai: I got the idea for bloodline level to class level conversion from the Quisling, as the alternative would have been to impose a ban on a character with this bloodline from taking levels in the class associated with their bloodline, although this is only slightly better. For clarification, this is how it works. Say a 16th level character with a Mahou Shonen Major Bloodline, a Fighter 13/Mahou Shonen 3(to represent bloodline levels) decides to take a Magical Girl level when he levels up. Then, as a 17th level character, he becomes a Fighter 13/Magical Girl 4(1 level taken + 3 bloodline levels converted).
    This is a fine concept, however the language does need work, compare the language on the Blackguard - "Trades in". So, for example:

    Special: Sometimes, a Mahou Shonen can embrace the full power of a Magical Girl, although few of those who can even want to. But if they do, should an Mahou Shonen take a level in Magical Girl, they lose all the benefits of this bloodline, excepting Dude Looks Like a Lady, and trades in all bloodline levels taken for Magical Girl levels. They no longer gain bloodline traits as they level and no longer need to take bloodline levels.

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    Default Re: [3.5 Bloodlines]Mommy Was a Magical Girl and Daddy Was An Abomination

    Quote Originally Posted by Kholai View Post
    This is a fine concept, however the language does need work, compare the language on the Blackguard - "Trades in". So, for example:

    Special: Sometimes, a Mahou Shonen can embrace the full power of a Magical Girl, although few of those who can even want to. But if they do, should an Mahou Shonen take a level in Magical Girl, they lose all the benefits of this bloodline, excepting Dude Looks Like a Lady, and trades in all bloodline levels taken for Magical Girl levels. They no longer gain bloodline traits as they level and no longer need to take bloodline levels.
    Losing all benefits is essentially the same as losing the abilities of the bloodline as well as not progressing, as they won't be able to gain future benefits, if they don't get bloodline abilities.
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