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    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    Beholder

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    Aug 2012

    Default Intelligent Undead vs Intimidate

    Ok lets say that someone plays an intelligent undead, and someone tries to
    1) Demoralize him
    2) Make him friendly with intimidate
    Are both of those possible? Or even one of them?

    I know that
    -A character immune to fear canít be intimidated, nor can nonintelligent creatures.
    -Undead have:Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects).

    But here comes the problem:
    -All fear attacks are mind-affecting fear effects.

    It is right there in the SRD, but I can't find this anywhere in the MM or in the DMG or in PH...and my DM doesn't accept the SRD as accurate, so I can't prove that intimidate fear is a mind effecting effect.

    Thanks.

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    Halfling in the Playground
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    Default Re: Intelligent Undead vs Intimidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ydaer Ca Noit View Post
    Monster manual page 309

    My opinion is that a skill check is not a mind-affecting effect. You are not immune to diplomacy or intimidate, maybe I would give a bonus on intimidate but not immunity.

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    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    Beholder

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    Default Re: Intelligent Undead vs Intimidate


    Ok so now I have to just prove that a use of the intimidate skill counts as an attack.

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    Halfling in the Playground
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    Default Re: Intelligent Undead vs Intimidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ydaer Ca Noit View Post

    Ok so now I have to just prove that a use of the intimidate skill counts as an attack.
    "Fear (Su or SP): Fear attacks have have various effects. ......... All fear attacks are mind-affecting effects"

    You cant take the last sentence out of contexts. It talks about fear supernatural and spell-like abilities.

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